You Can See The Crazyness and Bigotry In This

[Drich]

To kinda prove the point this thread was kinda making, but to him personally. In that what is the point of having all the answers he thought he had if he coul not communicate those answers to those who need it.

If he'd been involved in any form of exchange with the members, rather than repeatedly reiterating his point over and over, he could have. In essence, communicating his answers would have been all that was required.

Which was my point. By having rules like this you can create a safe place by regulating/censoring unpopular speech. Which is no different than what the people at CF have done. The only difference is they have outlined what they censor in great detail, and here one rule is made to fit any number of topics that you all do not want to deal with.

Which is just factually incorrect: Grace wasn't banned for content, but for manner. This isn't a matter of unpopular speech, easily evidenced by the fact that guys like you, and GC, and every other christian on this site, can talk about your god as much as you want, just so long as you actually engage with the people around you. That's a far cry from censoring any speech that disagrees with the viewpoint the mods have.

I have not spun anything. I have been very clear that both websites do the same thing, just on different subjects.

Can you provide a single example of someone being banned here, merely for the content of the opinion they expressed, where that content was not an outright threat?

It makes no difference whether you bann for content or manner, your still censoring people in the same way cf or af.com censors people. You have created an environment where only certain people with certain topics or formats can be discussed what is on their mind. Again not a good or bad thing it is just a nessary evil for their to be structure and any type of order. The point is no matter which side of The discussion you are on, there needs to be rules order and consenquence inorder for anything constructive to happen in either one of these forums.

[Foxaèr]

It makes no difference.

You are still here, against my better judgment. Good thing I am not a forum moderator, right?

[Godscreated]

You have problems with forums having their own rules, this one does and use to have Christians somewhat tied down by the "no preaching" rule, that actually did not apply to preaching, if it had no Christian would have been able to post much. Some here were just so afraid of hell they couldn't stomach the thought, telling someone their going to hell was never considered preaching in the Christian world.

GC

[Foxaèr]

telling someone their going to hell was never considered preaching in the Christian world.

GC

In case you have forgotten, this forum is in no way comparable to the christian world. It is an atheist forum.

Besides, I want you to find one Christian forum where a true atheist has resided for years, posting about his atheism. You will not be able to, because the atheists are always banned upon posting their introduction threads.

The fact that some theists have been posting here for years clearly shows who is more tolerant.

[Godscreated]

telling someone their going to hell was never considered preaching in the Christian world.

GC

In case you have forgotten, this forum is in no way comparable to the christian world. It is an atheist forum.

Besides, I want you to find one Christian forum where a true atheist has resided for years, posting about his atheism. You will not be able to, because the atheists are always banned upon posting their introduction threads.

The fact that some theists have been posting here for years clearly shows who is more tolerant.

The atheist's attitude is there is no God, without us the discussion on this would have ended long ago. So what then, an atheist forum with atheist who could not argue their points, might as well call it a people's forum. Atheist have no moral standard of observing the rules and feelings of others, they even brag about it here, so no they are not going to last in places that have moral ethics as part of their rules.
A Christian forum needs no unbelievers to participate because we have believes that have meaning behind them.

GC

[Fidel_Castronaut]

The atheist's attitude is there is no God,

What's a god?

without us the discussion on this would have ended long ago. So what then, an atheist forum with atheist who could not argue their points, might as well call it a people's forum. Atheist have no moral standard of observing the rules and feelings of others, they even brag about it here, so no they are not going to last in places that have moral ethics as part of their rules.
A Christian forum needs no unbelievers to participate because we have believes that have meaning behind them.

GC

I'm sad that you think banning people for simply being atheists is a more positive attitude than allowing those who disagree with you to post in an open and constructive manner (you know, like here?)

Do you want me to Allah for you, just in case?

[Bad Wolf]

Atheist have no moral standard of observing the rules and feelings of others, they even brag about it here, so no they are not going to last in places that have moral ethics as part of their rules.

GC

What peer-reviewed, scientific journals did you get this information from? I'm sure you have a lot of evidence to back up this sweeping claim. Or are you pulling all this out of you ass as usual?

[Godscreated]

without us the discussion on this would have ended long ago. So what then, an atheist forum with atheist who could not argue their points, might as well call it a people's forum. Atheist have no moral standard of observing the rules and feelings of others, they even brag about it here, so no they are not going to last in places that have moral ethics as part of their rules.
A Christian forum needs no unbelievers to participate because we have believes that have meaning behind them.

GC

I'm sad that you think banning people for simply being atheists is a more positive attitude than allowing those who disagree with you to post in an open and constructive manner (you know, like here?)

Do you want me to Allah for you, just in case?

They are banned for breaking rules not being atheist, just like here we are not banned because we're Christians.... so far.

GC

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Atheist have no moral standard of observing the rules and feelings of others, they even brag about it here, so no they are not going to last in places that have moral ethics as part of their rules.

GC

What peer-reviewed, scientific journals did you get this information from? I'm sure you have a lot of evidence to back up this sweeping claim. Or are you pulling all this out of you ass as usual?

Yes, I have the evidence it's call Atheist Forums.org, just read its in black and white, sometimes blue and red.

GC

[Lion IRC]

telling someone their going to hell was never considered preaching in the Christian world.

GC

In case you have forgotten, this forum is in no way comparable to the christian world. It is an atheist forum.

Besides, I want you to find one Christian forum where a true atheist has resided for years, posting about his atheism. You will not be able to, because the atheists are always banned upon posting their introduction threads.

The fact that some theists have been posting here for years clearly shows who is more tolerant.

Reasonable Faith Forum (24 users online now) has several long-standing, strong atheists.
...who are polite and enjoy civil discourse.

[Bad Wolf]

Yes, I have the evidence it's call Atheist Forums.org, just read its in black and white, sometimes blue and red.

GC

Yes, and you know what? I have evidence that all christians are morally corrupt scumbag bastards who would kill their entire family if their god told them to. I have evidence that christians are mindless drones. Sheep following the one in front. Yes, I have evidence, its called the real world.

Try again.