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RE: Poll for Christians: Are the End Times imminent?
December 20, 2013 at 12:02 am
Repent and believe the good news of Jesus Christ. I'm reminded of Matthew 22:23 The same day came to him the Sadducees, which say that there is no resurrection, and asked him, 24 Saying, Master, Moses said, If a man die, having no children, his brother shall marry his wife, and raise up seed unto his brother. 25 Now there were with us seven brethren: and the first, when he had married a wife, deceased, and, having no issue, left his wife unto his brother: 26 Likewise the second also, and the third, unto the seventh. 27 And last of all the woman died also. 28 Therefore in the resurrection whose wife shall she be of the seven? for they all had her. 29 Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.
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RE: Poll for Christians: Are the End Times imminent?
December 20, 2013 at 1:02 am
Most criminals are not Christians before they go to prison, why do you think the churches have prison ministries. Do you think we want to save the saved. There as several polls but they are on the population after they are in prison. We are told in the NT that murderers, thieves, liars and ect. will not be in heaven. If one doesn't make it to heaven one is not a Christian.
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RE: Poll for Christians: Are the End Times imminent?
December 20, 2013 at 1:10 am
What does the NT have to say about fucking idiots in heaven? If they are in you could be golden, G-C.
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RE: Poll for Christians: Are the End Times imminent?
December 20, 2013 at 3:48 am
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GC, if the polls are done after they are in prison, and uh... rather conveniently after conversion, because that's what you seem to be getting at, then what are you basing your seemingly bare assertion from?
Do you have data to back it up? How are you separating Christian-Criminals from in-prison converts? Furthermore, how do you know it's mostly non-Christians perpetrating these crimes and not Christians?
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RE: Poll for Christians: Are the End Times imminent?
December 20, 2013 at 5:21 am
(December 20, 2013 at 3:48 am)Aral Gamelon Wrote: GC, if the polls are done after they are in prison, and uh... rather conveniently after conversion, because that's what you seem to be getting at, then what are you basing your seemingly bare assertion from?
Do you have data to back it up? How are you separating Christian-Criminals from in-prison converts? Furthermore, how do you know it's mostly non-Christians perpetrating these crimes and not Christians?
You and I both know he's just pulling this stuff out of his ass.
Though it's always pleasant when a theistic apologetic contains its own debunking within its premise. It just shows how little examination was actually done before scrabbling unthinkingly to the defense of the bible.
Incidentally GC, I actually looked at the statistics before I came to my conclusion about them, specifically the methodology: the question they were asked from whence the data was drawn mentions one's religious background too, not just the religion one currently identifies with. The data stands.
GC Wrote:If one doesn't make it to heaven one is not a Christian.
Can we also take a moment to appreciate the breathtaking dishonesty of this notion? I mean, seriously.
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RE: Poll for Christians: Are the End Times imminent?
December 20, 2013 at 7:09 am
(December 20, 2013 at 1:02 am)Godschild Wrote: We are told in the NT that murderers, thieves, liars and ect. will not be in heaven. If one doesn't make it to heaven one is not a Christian. Can you supply the stats from heaven? With a breakdown of admissions versus rejects along with the claimed religious affiliations in each group?
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RE: Poll for Christians: Are the End Times imminent?
December 20, 2013 at 7:46 am
(December 20, 2013 at 7:09 am)xpastor Wrote: (December 20, 2013 at 1:02 am)Godschild Wrote: We are told in the NT that murderers, thieves, liars and ect. will not be in heaven. If one doesn't make it to heaven one is not a Christian. Can you supply the stats from heaven? With a breakdown of admissions versus rejects along with the claimed religious affiliations in each group?
Didn't you know?
God told him.
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RE: Poll for Christians: Are the End Times imminent?
December 20, 2013 at 7:55 am
(December 20, 2013 at 7:46 am)Zen Badger Wrote: Didn't you know?
God told him.
Actually, the signs that follow true believers are enumerated by Jesus in the bible: you know, in Mark 16, verse 17? True christians can drink poisons and not die, and fuck around with snakes.
GC, that shit seems a much more immediate demonstration of your true christianity, right? Why not show off that magic faith of yours?
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RE: Poll for Christians: Are the End Times imminent?
December 20, 2013 at 2:02 pm
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(December 20, 2013 at 5:21 am)Esquilax Wrote: GC Wrote:If one doesn't make it to heaven one is not a Christian.
Can we also take a moment to appreciate the breathtaking dishonesty of this notion? I mean, seriously.
Care to explain or are you just making a blind statement.
GC
(December 20, 2013 at 7:09 am)xpastor Wrote: (December 20, 2013 at 1:02 am)Godschild Wrote: We are told in the NT that murderers, thieves, liars and ect. will not be in heaven. If one doesn't make it to heaven one is not a Christian. Can you supply the stats from heaven? With a breakdown of admissions versus rejects along with the claimed religious affiliations in each group?
Mr. Pastor, if you ever was a pastor, you should know what scripture says about who will be in heaven. Play your little denial games all you want because in the end that's all they are games.
GC
(December 20, 2013 at 7:55 am)Esquilax Wrote: (December 20, 2013 at 7:46 am)Zen Badger Wrote: Didn't you know?
God told him.
Actually, the signs that follow true believers are enumerated by Jesus in the bible: you know, in Mark 16, verse 17? True christians can drink poisons and not die, and fuck around with snakes.
GC, that shit seems a much more immediate demonstration of your true christianity, right? Why not show off that magic faith of yours?
Faith has no magic, with God it's full of grace, of coarse you can't begin to understand such love.
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RE: Poll for Christians: Are the End Times imminent?
December 20, 2013 at 4:33 pm
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(December 20, 2013 at 12:02 am)orangebox21 Wrote: Repent and believe the good news of Jesus Christ. I'm reminded of Matthew 22:23 The same day came to him the Sadducees, which say that there is no resurrection, and asked him, 24 Saying, Master, Moses said, If a man die, having no children, his brother shall marry his wife, and raise up seed unto his brother. 25 Now there were with us seven brethren: and the first, when he had married a wife, deceased, and, having no issue, left his wife unto his brother: 26 Likewise the second also, and the third, unto the seventh. 27 And last of all the woman died also. 28 Therefore in the resurrection whose wife shall she be of the seven? for they all had her. 29 Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.
Biblical morality strikes again. "Left his wife unto his brother" as if she were property being handed down in his will.
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