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Why Should Someone Be an Atheist?

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Why Should Someone Be an Atheist?
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RE: Why Should Someone Be an Atheist?
December 24, 2013 at 4:07 pm
(December 24, 2013 at 4:05 am)savedwheat Wrote: Because I can't find a naturalistic explanation to account for the eyewitness testimony of the Apostles.

"Claimed" eyewitness testimony or they are just characters in a novel...Characters in novels can do anything the author's imagination puts to them.

Do you accept the claimed "eyewitness" testimony of Joseph Smith viz his visitation from the angel Moroni? Do you accept the claimed "eyewitness" testimony of Mohamed riding his horse thingy to Jerusalem and back in a single night? Do you accept those "eyewitnesses" who saw Vespasian cure the blind RIGHT IN FRONT OF THEM?!?!?! Sounds a bit Jesus-like doesn't it? But it wasn't Jesus, it was Vespasian, Roman Emperor.

Or, more likely, do you invoke the special pleading fallacy that those cases are somehow different and your particular ridiculous claims are "special"?

A far more likely explanation is the stories in the NT are nothing more than historical fiction. Real places, some real people and a whole lotta nonsense for the rest.
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RE: Why Should Someone Be an Atheist?
December 24, 2013 at 5:49 pm
There is nothing about the 66 books of the Bible that would make you think it is a novel.
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RE: Why Should Someone Be an Atheist?
December 24, 2013 at 5:55 pm
Quote:There is nothing about the 66 books of the Bible that would make you think it is a novel.

Talking snakes, people walking on water, talking donkeys, feeding thousands with a handful of loaves and fishes, animated corpses, sticks that turn into snakes, magically inscribed rocks, etc.

The whole thing could have been set at Hogwarts.

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Re: RE: Why Should Someone Be an Atheist?
December 24, 2013 at 5:58 pm
(December 24, 2013 at 5:49 pm)savedwheat Wrote: There is nothing about the 66 books of the Bible that would make you think it is a novel.

It makes me think of nothing but that it is the equivalent of an ancient novel.

Now are you going to respond to my questions above regarding special pleading?
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RE: Why Should Someone Be an Atheist?
December 24, 2013 at 6:02 pm
I am glad you couldn't show anything about the Bible that makes you think it is an ancient novel.
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RE: Why Should Someone Be an Atheist?
December 24, 2013 at 6:05 pm
Did you even see Brian's post?!
"Peace is a lie, there is only passion.
Through passion, I gain strength.
Through strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken."
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RE: Why Should Someone Be an Atheist?
December 24, 2013 at 6:06 pm
Who's Brian?
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RE: Why Should Someone Be an Atheist?
December 24, 2013 at 6:07 pm (This post was last modified: December 24, 2013 at 6:08 pm by Simon Moon.)
(December 24, 2013 at 6:02 pm)savedwheat Wrote: I am glad you couldn't show anything about the Bible that makes you think it is an ancient novel.

Maybe not a novel, but it sure is a book of ancient superstitious mythology. And not a very original one at that.

It's not even the first mythology to tell stories of god-men born to a virgin.

You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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RE: Why Should Someone Be an Atheist?
December 24, 2013 at 6:07 pm
There is nothing superstitious about it nor is there any mythology.
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RE: Why Should Someone Be an Atheist?
December 24, 2013 at 6:09 pm
(December 24, 2013 at 6:06 pm)savedwheat Wrote: Who's Brian?

The guy who 4 or 5 posts ago who provided exactly the thing you said nobody had.

Are you trolling?
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