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Why are Christians so obsessed with Beating Children??
#21
RE: Why are Christians so obsessed with Beating Children??
It is not necessarily abuse. However, platitudes such as "spare the rod, spoil the child" certainly don't discourage abusive discipline.

I personally have never found it necessary to strike my child in the 12 years he's been alive.
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#22
RE: Why are Christians so obsessed with Beating Children??
(January 16, 2014 at 12:32 pm)là bạn điên Wrote:
(January 16, 2014 at 11:20 am)Drich Wrote: without a doubt, undisipline disipline (or emotionally driven non consistant disipline) will send a kid into a tail spin, but on the other end there has not been an american president to date that has not felt the sting of the rod (whether they endorse this form of punishment now or not, they themselves were focoused by this form of punishment.)

So? What is so great about American presidents? you have just had two shit ones- Obama and Bush

Do you think this website and the free excahnge of ideas would work or even be allowed in central china? what about North Korea?

We have this thing over here called the bill of rights, that would be frowned upon in a soceity that makes everyone a 'cog' (to brow a phrase) We need cogs, and we need thinkers. If we train our children with the flexiablity to be either then we will ensure that the way of life our forefathers fought and died to establish will be a continuing legacy.

If not and all cogs are continually frowned upon, then ironically we will all eventually be assimilated into a huge cog driven soceity... It's comming, the only question is will we equip the comming generations to have a chance to stand against it or will we hand our soceity over to them when they are ready to take it?

(January 16, 2014 at 12:35 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: It is not necessarily abuse. However, platitudes such as "spare the rod, spoil the child" certainly don't discourage abusive discipline.

I personally have never found it necessary to strike my child in the 12 years he's been alive.

Your right unfortunatly abusers tend to fly that flag, but so what. That is no different than hearing someone say all black men are lazy or criminals. It is one thing to hear something like that, than it is to change your life to deal with 'all black' men in that way.

The key is not to be fooled into prejudice by what the worst of the worst may say or do, but to honor and be faithful to the spirit of what is right, then no matter what happens you can rest in the assureance that you did what you needed to do.
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#23
RE: Why are Christians so obsessed with Beating Children??
(January 16, 2014 at 12:43 pm)Drich Wrote: Do you think this website and the free excahnge of ideas would work or even be allowed in central china? what about North Korea?

What has that got to do with your preisdents

Quote:We have this thing over here called the bill of rights, that would be frowned upon in a soceity that makes everyone a 'cog' (to brow a phrase) We need cogs, and we need thinkers. If we train our children with the flexiablity to be either then we will ensure that the way of life our forefathers fought and died to establish will be a continuing legacy.

And this has what to do with beating children?

Quote:If not and all cogs are continually frowned upon, then ironically we will all eventually be assimilated into a huge cog driven soceity... It's comming, the only question is will we equip the comming generations to have a chance to stand against it or will we hand our soceity over to them when they are ready to take it?

And what has this to do with anything?

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#24
RE: Why are Christians so obsessed with Beating Children??
Some people don't know where to draw the line, though.

http://www.fox19.com/story/9457010/polic...out-demons

Quote:Police: TX couple beat baby to death with hammer to drive out demons
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RE: Why are Christians so obsessed with Beating Children??
(January 16, 2014 at 12:35 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: It is not necessarily abuse. However, platitudes such as "spare the rod, spoil the child" certainly don't discourage abusive discipline.

I personally have never found it necessary to strike my child in the 12 years he's been alive.

Me either but I am one year (actually about 4 months) behind you with my daughter being 11.

For me it just seems that if I had to resort to physical violence to get a point across then I've lost.

I'm going with the new traditional parenting of irony, sarcasm, blackmail and bribery. Works a treat.
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RE: Why are Christians so obsessed with Beating Children??
(January 16, 2014 at 1:47 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Some people don't know where to draw the line, though.

http://www.fox19.com/story/9457010/polic...out-demons

Quote:Police: TX couple beat baby to death with hammer to drive out demons

Ugg. Desperately sick.

If Christianity is even half way true, I see st Paul doing a marsellus Wallace at the pearly gates . " Let me tell you what now. I'ma call a coupla hard, pipe-hittin' angels, who'll go to work on the homes here with a pair of pliers and a blow torch. You hear me talkin', hillbilly boy? I ain't through with you by a damn sight. I'ma get medieval on your ass."
"Peace is a lie, there is only passion.
Through passion, I gain strength.
Through strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken."
Sith code
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#27
RE: Why are Christians so obsessed with Beating Children??
So its okay to stone children to death for disobeying?
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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#28
RE: Why are Christians so obsessed with Beating Children??
http://pubpages.unh.edu/~mas2/CP10.pdf
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#29
RE: Why are Christians so obsessed with Beating Children??
(January 16, 2014 at 12:43 pm)Drich Wrote:
(January 16, 2014 at 12:35 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: It is not necessarily abuse. However, platitudes such as "spare the rod, spoil the child" certainly don't discourage abusive discipline.

I personally have never found it necessary to strike my child in the 12 years he's been alive.

Your right unfortunatly abusers tend to fly that flag, but so what. That is no different than hearing someone say all black men are lazy or criminals. It is one thing to hear something like that, than it is to change your life to deal with 'all black' men in that way.

Honestly, Drich - I have no idea how you came up with that based on what you quoted.
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#30
RE: Why are Christians so obsessed with Beating Children??
(January 16, 2014 at 7:55 am)là bạn điên Wrote: Christians seem to be obsessed with beating children. Whenever the topic is raised it always seems to draw Christians out to tell us how wonderful it is. christians even have their own websites extolling the virtues of it.

Here is a typical forum complete with creepy cartoon of a child being physically assualted and what is with the bared buttocks thing?-doubly creepy.

http://www.voy.com/224331/

Because beating children is approved and, sometimes, encouraged, while beating off yourself is a "sin".

They have to put their extra energy and sexual frustration somewhere . . .

Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni:

"You did WHAT?  With WHO?  WHERE???"
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