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You cant prove there isnt a God
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RE: You cant prove there isnt a God
(January 22, 2014 at 6:49 pm)Pope Leo Decrapio Wrote: Well half of the world doesnt believe that about Cyril.


Great, another fallacy. Argumentum ad populum.

Are you trying for the biggest logic fail of 2014? You have a great start.

Quote:Now it isnt just Christians Jews and Muslims that believe in God. I've also heard hindus, buddhists, new agers, Diests, and other religions speak of God.

It only matters if they can support their beliefs with demonstrable evidence, reasoned argument and valid/sound logic.

If not, they are all making unsupported assertions. And the number of people that make the assertion does not add any validity to them.

Quote:Some Scientists refer to "God" or "acts of God" for that which cannot be medically or scientifically explained (including miracles).

Nope. Not even close. If a scientist appeals to magic, they are not doing science.

Science only concerns the natural universe.

Quote:So the word God is a very vague term. If you add Catholics, Protestants, Non denoms, Muslims, and Jews, that is more than half the world's population.

These are the monotheistic "people of the book", but there are countless millions of believers in God who are not people of the book

Hindus make up another nearly 1/6 of the worlds population. Anyhow, the vast majority of the World believes in God and so I think they should have as much credibility as those who know with certainty that God doesnt exist.

Still a logical fallacy, no matter how many times you repeat it.

At one time the vast majority of humanity believed the earth was flat and the sun orbited the earth.

How did that popular belief work out for the believers?

Quote:Since you cant know with certainty that all those billions of "superstitious fools" are erroneous morons, why be so militantly against the idea of God?

Because people's beliefs don't live in a vacuum.

Wars are started, slavery is justified, oppressing minorities is justified, forced female genital mutilation is performed, pseudoscience is taught in public schools, etc, etc all in the name of one or another of these god beliefs.

And not a single one can support their beliefs with evidence or reasoned argument.

I'm not militant toward the 'idea of god', only what the believers do with those beliefs.

(January 22, 2014 at 6:49 pm)Pope Leo Decrapio Wrote: Hindus make up another nearly 1/6 of the worlds population. Anyhow, the vast majority of the World believes in God and so I think they should have as much credibility as those who know with certainty that God doesnt exist.

I missed this one the first time around.

The vast majority of atheists do not make he claim, with absolute certainty, that a god does not exist. That is not atheism.

Atheism in general, is the lack of belief in a god or gods. There is no claim, necessarily, that a god does not exist.

SOME atheists may make the claim that no god exists, but I don't think they are the majority.

You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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#22
RE: You cant prove there isnt a God



As a Hindu, I can tell you in no uncertain terms that what I worship is not the same thing as what Christians and Muslims worship. Your attempt to equivocate from a specific thing that is god to anything vaguely godlike, including the universe, fails. That would be like saying all tables are basically chairs because both have legs. So, no, half the world does not worship a specific god thing, half the world worships different godlike things that share some, but not all, of their properties. Saying they do, and therefore they all worship "God", is equivocation and invalid as a matter of logic.

Further, God spelled with a capital 'G' is, by convention, reserved for referring in English to the god of the Christians and the Jews and several other offshoots of Judaism (the Samaritans, for example); it does not refer to a specific but religiously neutral "god" any more than the name Kali refers to a notion of the Shakti as the embodiment of the divine feminine irrespective of the specific tradition of specific Shakta Hindu belief, as different traditions envision the nature of the Shakti very differently. So not only is your logic wrong, you're not even using the right names to make your argument make sense. Following tradition, what you've stated is that half the world follows "God," being the god of Jews and Christians, and that statement is just absurdly wrong. I can tell you for a fact that while I do worship a god, I most certainly do not worship "God."


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#23
RE: You cant prove there isnt a God
So you finding pussy to be the most amazing thing is proof of god? There is a completely natural explanation for this. You are a man, over thousands to millions of years the horinest men breed the best, so their horny genes were passed on. Men that favored pussy naturally breed more, & so we end up with you, the frustrated pussy-lover. So it is not that pussy is amazing so much as it is that you, as a man, are naturally predisposed to love pussy. I love pussy just as much, I merely recognize the purely natural explanations for this, you on the other hand are too blinded by horniess to realize this.
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#24
RE: You cant prove there isnt a God
I can think of a Being worshipped by billions of people. ALL of these worshippers - without exception - pray to this Being. Their prayers are nearly uniformly answered, leading to a deep, sincere honest belief in and reverence for this Being.

His name is Santa Claus.

Preponderance of belief in a thing is NEVER sufficient reason to accept that thing as real.

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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#25
RE: You cant prove there isnt a God
(January 22, 2014 at 6:49 pm)Pope Leo Decrapio Wrote:
(January 22, 2014 at 4:15 pm)Beccs Wrote: I can't prove that Cyril the Space Wombat isn't orbiting Saturn, either.

That doesn't mean I'm going to start believing in him.

Of course, the religious can't prove there's a god, either.

I'll ignore the rest of the references.

Well half of the world doesnt believe that about Cyril.
Now it isnt just Christians Jews and Muslims that believe in God. I've also heard hindus, buddhists, new agers, Diests, and other religions speak of God.

Some Scientists refer to "God" or "acts of God" for that which cannot be medically or scientifically explained (including miracles).

So the word God is a very vague term. If you add Catholics, Protestants, Non denoms, Muslims, and Jews, that is more than half the world's population.

These are the monotheistic "people of the book", but there are countless millions of believers in God who are not people of the book

Hindus make up another nearly 1/6 of the worlds population. Anyhow, the vast majority of the World believes in God and so I think they should have as much credibility as those who know with certainty that God doesnt exist.

Since you cant know with certainty that all those billions of "superstitious fools" are erroneous morons, why be so militantly against the idea of God?

(Sorry if my grammar sucks ass. No im not! Im 26 years old and an apathetic douchebag when it comes to such things.)

Also, if you think im a troll, that really makes me wanna put a twelve gage to my head. Nothing makes me wanna douse myself in holy water and do something to earn a plenary indulgence more than to wake up in the morning knowing that someone on the Internet thinks im a troll.

Peace and good will to you fellow citizens!

Right, the numbers fallacy.

Fail.

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