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RE: Fish must be very holy
March 22, 2015 at 12:45 am
If you can define the term then, thought about it for a few seconds you would see the atheist position in this thread is moot.
Here's another question for those who can't b bother to do any research before they speak. If all major rivers eventually connect to the sea, then why aren't all major rivers salty from source to mouth?
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RE: Fish must be very holy
March 22, 2015 at 12:55 am
(March 22, 2015 at 12:45 am)Drich Wrote: [...]
If all major rivers eventually connect to the sea, then why aren't all major rivers salty from source to mouth?
Oh, oh, don't tell me - I think I know this one. Is it because of Jesus, who died on the cross, so that rivers are not salty anymore? That's it, isn't it?
Yeah, it has to be...
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RE: Fish must be very holy
March 22, 2015 at 1:10 am
(March 22, 2015 at 12:45 am)Drich Wrote: If you can define the term then, thought about it for a few seconds you would see the atheist position in this thread is moot.
Here's another question for those who can't b bother to do any research before they speak. If all major rivers eventually connect to the sea, then why aren't all major rivers salty from source to mouth?
The flood would have killed most if not all salt-water fish. Few could tolerate the change in salinity. All coral reefs would have been wiped out because of change in temperature, salinity and reduction of light level.
Rivers are not salty because they flow into the ocean - not the reverse.
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RE: Fish must be very holy
March 22, 2015 at 9:44 am
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Do you guys who all claim to want scientific proof of everything, look for it in anything? Salt water and fresh water does not readily mix.
http://oceanservice.noaa.gov/education/t...ation.html
The fresh water fish would live up top and the salt water would migrate lower. Where the two types of water met... Brackish water.
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RE: Fish must be very holy
March 22, 2015 at 9:50 am
(February 7, 2014 at 10:52 am)Chad32 Wrote: It's almost like the people who wrote the story didn't understand much about how things work in relation to altitude and different kinds of waters and ecosystems.
It's more likely that they didn't understand such things at all. And didn't care much about the fish anyway since the focus of the story was clearly on the wicked humanity that had to be destroyed.
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RE: Fish must be very holy
March 22, 2015 at 10:24 am
(March 22, 2015 at 9:44 am)Drich Wrote: Do you guys who all claim to want scientific proof of everything, look for it in anything? Salt water and fresh water does not readily mix.
http://oceanservice.noaa.gov/education/t...ation.html
The fresh water fish would live up top and the salt water would migrate lower. Where the two types of water met... Brackish water.
You could make a case that there isn't enough mixing in 40 days to cause a big enough salinity problem but you'll still have a temperature problem. The salt water layer would begin miles deep causing the temperature to plummet too low for most species to survive. All corals and all plant life (both aquatic and marine) would die. Of course all terrestrial plant life would die as well.
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RE: Fish must be very holy
March 22, 2015 at 10:39 am
(March 22, 2015 at 10:24 am)AFTT47 Wrote: Of course all terrestrial plant life would die as well. Which begs the question, "Where did the olive branch come from?".
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RE: Fish must be very holy
March 22, 2015 at 11:24 am
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(March 22, 2015 at 10:24 am)AFTT47 Wrote: (March 22, 2015 at 9:44 am)Drich Wrote: Do you guys who all claim to want scientific proof of everything, look for it in anything? Salt water and fresh water does not readily mix.
http://oceanservice.noaa.gov/education/t...ation.html
The fresh water fish would live up top and the salt water would migrate lower. Where the two types of water met... Brackish water.
You could make a case that there isn't enough mixing in 40 days to cause a big enough salinity problem but you'll still have a temperature problem. The salt water layer would begin miles deep causing the temperature to plummet too low for most species to survive. All corals and all plant life (both aquatic and marine) would die. Of course all terrestrial plant life would die as well.  what makes you think the water level rose miles? Wouldn't meters/feet be a more accurate measure of water table rise?
(March 22, 2015 at 9:50 am)Smaug Wrote: (February 7, 2014 at 10:52 am)Chad32 Wrote: It's almost like the people who wrote the story didn't understand much about how things work in relation to altitude and different kinds of waters and ecosystems.
It's more likely that they didn't understand such things at all. And didn't care much about the fish anyway since the focus of the story was clearly on the wicked humanity that had to be destroyed.
Or maybe you two clowns don't understand the scientific principles well enough to see how the biblical account worked.
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RE: Fish must be very holy
March 22, 2015 at 11:29 am
(March 22, 2015 at 11:24 am)Drich Wrote: what makes you think the water level rose miles? Wouldn't meters/feet be a more accurate measure of water table rise?] To cover the earth in water is to cover Denver in water, the MILE high city.
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RE: Fish must be very holy
March 22, 2015 at 11:35 am
I understand enough about the scientific principles to know that kind of boat wouldn't work, getting all those animals on the boat and keeping them alive for 40 days and nights wouldn't work, and after everything was dead there wouldn't be any plants to eat, and the only thing for the carnivores to eat is the other animals that got off the boat.
There are so many problems with this story, you'd have to have your god working hard to keep it from falling apart every step of the way. which means the plan itsself is rather stupid. Your god let the population turn to evil, and the only way he could think of fixing it was to kill most everyone, and the end result wasn't even what he presumably wanted.
Even if I give you all you wanted, in the end the plan failed. Even the Jesus plan failed, because most people are still going to hell for a lack of evidence, and Jesus even knew it was going to fail when he was still alive.
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