Prayer is blasphemous

[MitchBenn]

Sorry if this idea has been mooted before, but ...

It occurred to me the other day that, if one accepts the notion of God as omniscient, omnipotent and ineffably wise, isn't the whole notion of prayer inherently blasphemous?

If God is omniscient, then whatever issue you're trying to draw his attention to, he already KNOWS about. As such, if he is refusing to intercede, he must have his reasons, being ineffably wise.

As such, to pray for intercession, whether on your own behalf or anyone else's, is either to deny God's omniscience (by drawing his attention to something you seem to think he's somehow missed) or to question his judgment (by challenging his decision not to intercede, or, if he has ALREADY interceded, by pointing out that he has, in your opinion, interceded incorrectly).

You're questioning his competence, in any event, by essentially telling him how to do his job...

Thoughts?

[Minimalist]

[orangebox21]

Sorry if this idea has been mooted before, but ...
It occurred to me the other day that, if one accepts the notion of God as omniscient, omnipotent and ineffably wise, isn't the whole notion of prayer inherently blasphemous?

For argument's sake, defining blasphemy as: "the act of insulting or showing contempt or lack of reverence for God" (MitchBenn Wrote: If God is omniscient, then whatever issue you're trying to draw his attention to, he already KNOWS about.
Truth

As such, if he is refusing to intercede, he must have his reasons, being ineffably wise.

Truth

As such, to pray for intercession, whether on your own behalf or anyone else's, is either to deny God's omniscience (by drawing his attention to something you seem to think he's somehow missed) or to question his judgment (by challenging his decision not to intercede, or, if he has ALREADY interceded, by pointing out that he has, in your opinion, interceded incorrectly).

Either-Or fallacy leading to your false conclusion below vvvvvvvvv

You're questioning his competence, in any event, by essentially telling him how to do his job...

Thoughts?

[Tonus]

God likes for his followers to grovel for no reason at all.

[Minimalist]

And they do.

[Drich]

Sorry if this idea has been mooted before, but ...

It occurred to me the other day that, if one accepts the notion of God as omniscient, omnipotent and ineffably wise, isn't the whole notion of prayer inherently blasphemous?

If God is omniscient, then whatever issue you're trying to draw his attention to, he already KNOWS about. As such, if he is refusing to intercede, he must have his reasons, being ineffably wise.

As such, to pray for intercession, whether on your own behalf or anyone else's, is either to deny God's omniscience (by drawing his attention to something you seem to think he's somehow missed) or to question his judgment (by challenging his decision not to intercede, or, if he has ALREADY interceded, by pointing out that he has, in your opinion, interceded incorrectly).

You're questioning his competence, in any event, by essentially telling him how to do his job...

Thoughts?

Christ in luke 11 defines what prayer is. "When you pray pray like this:" then He recites the Lord's Prayer. In this prayer we acknowledge the deity of God. His place and over all authority, we pray that His kingdom come/will be done.. In this aspect of prayer we are not able to ask for intercession. Rather we are being directed to ask for whatever God want and will for our live to take precedence. So in the only model of actual prayer we have in the NT we are asking that God change our will to match His own, not the He change His will to match ours. From their we are indeed directed to ask for our daily needs. Then To keep us from temptation and evil. Finally we close the only thing Christ ever modeled or certified as an offical prayer.

That said there are many times when we ask or seek things from God. So if a prayer is what Jesus modeled in luke 11 what are we doing when we ask for things?

In OT times and in the first century Church this was known as supplication or petition. Which basically means your asking God for a favor. There is no sin in this, but at the same time know this is not an actual prayer.

God Always answers offical prayer in the positive. Supplication however is another story. Think about it if you had a kid that only want you to give so he could receive/take from you and the other children, would you be as willing to give that child the things he did not need. As you would be willing to give a child looking to work with and support your decisions and to support his brothers and sisters before he did for himself?

[Sword of Christ]

If God is omniscient, then whatever issue you're trying to draw his attention to, he already KNOWS about.

"Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him." Matthew 6:8

It's really more to develop the bond of your relationship to your creator.

As such, if he is refusing to intercede, he must have his reasons, being ineffably wise.

He intercedes through who you are and everything you do. Transform the inner reality and you transform the outer reality. It's not some kind of magic wand that makes your problems disappear you have to do it yourself, you have freewill and responsibility for your own actions. So while it does work it works the way the Bible suggests not the way atheists insist it has to work with their stereotypical view of faith walled into this narrow materialist mindset.

[truthBtold]

Whos HE?

[Sword of Christ]

Whos HE?

The supreme intelligence and purposeful prime mover who is the foundation of all reality, consciousness and the natural order of everything that exists anywhere that exists.

[truthBtold]

Where do u even start a claim like that?