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A new member. A Catholic school teacher.
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A new member. A Catholic school teacher.
Hello there. I am from North East England and am actually taking quite a risk in posting on this forum but I am determined to speak to like minded people as regards my current developing stance on philosophy and personal enlightenment.

I am a Catholic teacher in a Catholic school, but I have very recently questioned my beliefs with increasing fervour.

Reading Hitchens, Dawkins, Russell, Kant and Schopenhauer I have come to the conclusion that my own belief system has long been without vigour for quite some time. I have been going through the motions. Proselytising to the children as a mouthpiece for the church, rather than being allowed to educate with the trust of personal responsibility.

I am looking to leave my position within the next few months, but it is increasingly important to me that I remove myself in order that my hypocrisy not damage both my personal sense, my professional sense and my personal philosophy.

However, being as I am a relatively senior member of the school, it will be very difficult to move out of the Catholic system without something looking quite odd. It also means my options are immediately lessened.

But my family need a room over their heads and an income coming in.

Thanks for listening and I am welcome to all opinions.
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#2
RE: A new member. A Catholic school teacher.
Welcome! Tough position you've got there. I hope we can help you in some way Smile
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RE: A new member. A Catholic school teacher.
I'm sure there are many people in religiously based professions trapped like you.



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RE: A new member. A Catholic school teacher.
It's an odd situation. You feel as though you are betraying many people. Not least yourself.

Even though my faith has waned, my love for my colleagues remains the same and it feels very difficult to consider that they may see my motivations as a sleight.

Very odd.
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RE: A new member. A Catholic school teacher.
Stop waisting time and get off this forum and find a job!!!! Just kidding!!!!!! Haahha!! Welcome u came to the right place...
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RE: A new member. A Catholic school teacher.
Welcome!

Is it at all possible to still teach at the school but not proselytize? I mean if you teach English for example, it might be possible to remain there. Science, however, maybe not...

I do understand the personal reasons, though. I couldn't imagine working in a place that offended my sense of personal integrity. Tough spot.
"There remain four irreducible objections to religious faith: that it wholly misrepresents the origins of man and the cosmos, that because of this original error it manages to combine the maximum servility with the maximum of solipsism, that it is both the result and the cause of dangerous sexual repression, and that it is ultimately grounded on wish-thinking." ~Christopher Hitchens, god is not Great

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RE: A new member. A Catholic school teacher.


You might find the new book by Daniel Dennett interesting: Caught in The Pulpit: Leaving Belief Behind

It's about the experience of priests and pastors who no longer believe, but feel "trapped" in their profession.

And welcome.

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(February 21, 2014 at 2:27 pm)Mr. Moncrieff Wrote: It's an odd situation. You feel as though you are betraying many people. Not least yourself.

Even though my faith has waned, my love for my colleagues remains the same and it feels very difficult to consider that they may see my motivations as a sleight.

Very odd.

If they love you as you love them, they won't take personal offense. If they do, it means you love lesser people.
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#9
RE: A new member. A Catholic school teacher.
Welcome aboard!

You are indeed in a tough position.

You may want to contact The Clergy Project. It is a nonprofit (non-Prophet Big Grin) organization designed to help people in exactly your situation.


http://www.clergyproject.org/

You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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RE: A new member. A Catholic school teacher.
As one who was formerly on the "inside" looking "out", I can certainly relate to your dilemma. I don't have any advice for you because I don't know your personal situation, and even if I did, I don't know if the advice I would give would be helpful. All I can tell you is to be true to your inner self. If that negatively affects how people view you, that's their problem, not yours. Keep your chin up.
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- Galileo Galilei (1564-1642)

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