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RE: Christians, prove your minds aren't molested by fear.
March 6, 2014 at 11:30 am
Rebellion, self-conceit, licentiousness, etc. What else drives someone to adamantly reject God? ;-)
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Rebellion yes. Against constant allegations of self-conceit and licentiousness, not to mention the usual guilt tripping and fearmongering, IS enough to drive someone to adamantly reject god.
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RE: Christians, prove your minds aren't molested by fear.
March 6, 2014 at 3:23 pm
(March 6, 2014 at 6:46 am)Sinbad Wrote: (February 27, 2014 at 4:36 am)fr0d0 Wrote: No I believe. That answer was less than sort of for me.
Repentance: I'm more random than that. I see it as humility and respect which empowers me. It isn't a fearful thing in that I'm scared in any way or that fear of a negative kind motivates me in any way.
"Fear of God" to me is respecting what's right and good and helping yourself.
Why do you need 'fear of god' to respect what's right and good, when everybody knows instinctively what is right and good.
That instinct is what Christians refer to as your God spot.
You completely misunderstood what I wrote, as short as it was. I'm inspired by God. I would do good from that inspiration where ordinarily I would have no reason to.
Fear, as you mean it, plays no part in my Christian experience at all. It's awe. It's freedom. I'm not restricted by thinking that negativity forms part of my freedom. Negativity is imprisonment.
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RE: Christians, prove your minds aren't molested by fear.
March 6, 2014 at 4:18 pm
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(March 6, 2014 at 9:54 am)ChadWooters Wrote: (March 6, 2014 at 7:11 am)Pickup_shonuff Wrote: Insecurities, fear of the unknown, wishful thinking, etc. What else drives people to fervently embrace woo-woo? Rebellion, self-conceit, licentiousness, etc. What else drives someone to adamantly reject God? ;-)
I know on Christianity using your intelligence (sorry, I mean eating from the tree of knowledge) is associated with all those things.
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Christians, prove your minds aren't molested by fear.
March 6, 2014 at 4:21 pm
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(March 6, 2014 at 9:54 am)ChadWooters Wrote: (March 6, 2014 at 7:11 am)Pickup_shonuff Wrote: Insecurities, fear of the unknown, wishful thinking, etc. What else drives people to fervently embrace woo-woo? Rebellion, self-conceit, licentiousness, etc. What else drives someone to adamantly reject God? ;-)
Rebellion, self-conceit, licentiousness, etc. What else drives someone to adamantly reject Cthulhu? ;-)
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RE: Christians, prove your minds aren't molested by fear.
March 6, 2014 at 4:25 pm
Clown, that episode is about reasoning only from the sensual nature, just like materialists do.
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RE: Christians, prove your minds aren't molested by fear.
March 6, 2014 at 5:35 pm
(March 6, 2014 at 4:25 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: Clown, that episode is about reasoning only from the sensual nature, just like materialists do.
What does that even mean?
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RE: Christians, prove your minds aren't molested by fear.
March 6, 2014 at 5:37 pm
(March 6, 2014 at 3:23 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: That instinct is what Christians refer to as your God spot. Do you guys ever shorten it to, you know...
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RE: Christians, prove your minds aren't molested by fear.
March 6, 2014 at 6:49 pm
(March 6, 2014 at 4:21 pm)Rampant.A.I. Wrote: (March 6, 2014 at 9:54 am)ChadWooters Wrote: Rebellion, self-conceit, licentiousness, etc. What else drives someone to adamantly reject God? ;-)
Rebellion, self-conceit, licentiousness, etc. What else drives someone to adamantly reject Cthulhu? ;-)
Fear of calamari? Shellfish allergy?
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RE: Christians, prove your minds aren't molested by fear.
March 6, 2014 at 8:33 pm
(March 6, 2014 at 5:37 pm)Tonus Wrote: (March 6, 2014 at 3:23 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: That instinct is what Christians refer to as your God spot. Do you guys ever shorten it to, you know...
The G spot is a myth.
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RE: Christians, prove your minds aren't molested by fear.
March 7, 2014 at 6:25 am
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(March 6, 2014 at 3:23 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: (March 6, 2014 at 6:46 am)Sinbad Wrote: Why do you need 'fear of god' to respect what's right and good, when everybody knows instinctively what is right and good.
That instinct is what Christians refer to as your God spot.
You completely misunderstood what I wrote, as short as it was. I'm inspired by God. I would do good from that inspiration where ordinarily I would have no reason to.
Fear, as you mean it, plays no part in my Christian experience at all. It's awe. It's freedom. I'm not restricted by thinking that negativity forms part of my freedom. Negativity is imprisonment.
Whatever sugar coated version christianity has evolved into, it has always been built on fear. Fear of what happens to you when youre dead, fear of what god will do to non believers, not to mention the vile things the church have done to people throughout history to instill fear.
But ok, so its not fear that motivates you. Lets remove that for a moment.
Why would you need something external, whether real or not, to make you into a good person.
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