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Faith, what is it?
October 28, 2008 at 6:40 am
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What is the true definition of the word "FAITH" in your opinion, according to the bible?
Is faith 100% commitment or can it be less than that and still be faith?
If someone says they don't know for sure 100% isn't that an agnostic theist?
Does the bible say to believe without doubt and if so what chapter, verse etc.. or does it tell it's readers it's O.K to say "I'm not 100% sure"?
Anyone care to comment?
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RE: Faith, what is it?
October 28, 2008 at 3:59 pm
(October 28, 2008 at 6:40 am)Bungy Wrote: What is the true definition of the word "FAITH" in your opinion, according to the bible?
Is faith 100% commitment or can it be less than that and still be faith?
I know a christian who says they don't know for sure 100% but claims to not be an agnostic theist
Does the bible say to believe without doubt and if so what chapter, verse etc.. or does it tell it's readers it's O.K to say "I'm not 100% sure"?
Anyone care to comment?
Turning yet again to TGD and Dawkins' spectrum of probability on god's existence, it seems to me that believers simply have to put themselves in cat.1 strong theist. Unlike us, who assess the probability and I suspect overwhelmingly claim cat.6 de facto atheist, their faith demands no question as to it being 100% certain that god exists. Poor deluded fools! And because they are so afflicted, rational argument/debate is impossible, so I either ridicule or bait them!
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RE: Faith, what is it?
October 28, 2008 at 4:37 pm
(October 28, 2008 at 3:59 pm)bozo Wrote: (October 28, 2008 at 6:40 am)Bungy Wrote: What is the true definition of the word "FAITH" in your opinion, according to the bible?
Is faith 100% commitment or can it be less than that and still be faith?
I know a christian who says they don't know for sure 100% but claims to not be an agnostic theist
Does the bible say to believe without doubt and if so what chapter, verse etc.. or does it tell it's readers it's O.K to say "I'm not 100% sure"?
Anyone care to comment?
Turning yet again to TGD and Dawkins' spectrum of probability on god's existence, it seems to me that believers simply have to put themselves in cat.1 strong theist. Unlike us, who assess the probability and I suspect overwhelmingly claim cat.6 de facto atheist, their faith demands no question as to it being 100% certain that god exists. Poor deluded fools! And because they are so afflicted, rational argument/debate is impossible, so I either ridicule or bait them!
Faith is believing something without evidence. One should have faith that GOD exists, that He Loves you, that He will save you from a spiritual death. One could have faith in lesser things: faith that I am the Risen Christ.
The bible contains essential spiritual truths on how you may be saved.
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RE: Faith, what is it?
October 28, 2008 at 4:42 pm
Constantly claiming that you are the Risen Christ does not help in any way to make people warm to you and engage in any form of meaningful discusion.
Even if you are you must realise that no-one is going to accept it.
Is it possible that when on these forums you could talk like a person with a rational mind?
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RE: Faith, what is it?
October 28, 2008 at 4:44 pm
(October 28, 2008 at 4:37 pm)ManofGOD Wrote: (October 28, 2008 at 3:59 pm)bozo Wrote: (October 28, 2008 at 6:40 am)Bungy Wrote: What is the true definition of the word "FAITH" in your opinion, according to the bible?
Is faith 100% commitment or can it be less than that and still be faith?
I know a christian who says they don't know for sure 100% but claims to not be an agnostic theist
Does the bible say to believe without doubt and if so what chapter, verse etc.. or does it tell it's readers it's O.K to say "I'm not 100% sure"?
Anyone care to comment?
Turning yet again to TGD and Dawkins' spectrum of probability on god's existence, it seems to me that believers simply have to put themselves in cat.1 strong theist. Unlike us, who assess the probability and I suspect overwhelmingly claim cat.6 de facto atheist, their faith demands no question as to it being 100% certain that god exists. Poor deluded fools! And because they are so afflicted, rational argument/debate is impossible, so I either ridicule or bait them!
Faith is believing something without evidence. One should have faith that GOD exists, that He Loves you, that He will save you from a spiritual death. One could have faith in lesser things: faith that I am the Risen Christ.
Manof GOD....RIDICULE OR BAIT, YOU CHOOSE!
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RE: Faith, what is it?
October 28, 2008 at 5:06 pm
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(October 28, 2008 at 4:37 pm)ManofGOD Wrote: (October 28, 2008 at 3:59 pm)bozo Wrote: (October 28, 2008 at 6:40 am)Bungy Wrote: What is the true definition of the word "FAITH" in your opinion, according to the bible?
Is faith 100% commitment or can it be less than that and still be faith?
I know a christian who says they don't know for sure 100% but claims to not be an agnostic theist
Does the bible say to believe without doubt and if so what chapter, verse etc.. or does it tell it's readers it's O.K to say "I'm not 100% sure"?
Anyone care to comment?
Turning yet again to TGD and Dawkins' spectrum of probability on god's existence, it seems to me that believers simply have to put themselves in cat.1 strong theist. Unlike us, who assess the probability and I suspect overwhelmingly claim cat.6 de facto atheist, their faith demands no question as to it being 100% certain that god exists. Poor deluded fools! And because they are so afflicted, rational argument/debate is impossible, so I either ridicule or bait them!
Faith is believing something without evidence. One should have faith that GOD exists, that He Loves you, that He will save you from a spiritual death. One could have faith in lesser things: faith that I am the Risen Christ.
You definitely sound like an atheist in secret to me. I think you very well could be, sounds like a joke, sorry if you're serious. But anyways, I agree with your definition, I also think faith is belief in the absence of evidence, just like Dawkins says: "Faith is the great cop-out, the great excuse to evade the need to think and evaluate evidence. Faith is belief in spite of, even perhaps because of, the lack of evidence." - Richard Dawkins.
And you'll notice that this quote (and therefore, this definition of faith) is already in my signature.
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RE: Faith, what is it?
October 28, 2008 at 6:07 pm
(October 28, 2008 at 4:42 pm)Darwinian Wrote: Constantly claiming that you are the Risen Christ does not help in any way to make people warm to you and engage in any form of meaningful discusion.
Even if you are you must realise that no-one is going to accept it.
Is it possible that when on these forums you could talk like a person with a rational mind?
Please, by all means, show me the measure of my irrationality in previous posts; ignoring my outrageous (but true) claim.
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RE: Faith, what is it?
October 28, 2008 at 6:32 pm
(October 28, 2008 at 6:07 pm)ManofGOD Wrote: (October 28, 2008 at 4:42 pm)Darwinian Wrote: Constantly claiming that you are the Risen Christ does not help in any way to make people warm to you and engage in any form of meaningful discusion.
Even if you are you must realise that no-one is going to accept it.
Is it possible that when on these forums you could talk like a person with a rational mind?
Please, by all means, show me the measure of my irrationality in previous posts; ignoring my outrageous (but true) claim. Why would you describe your own claim as outrageous if you really believe its true?
You sound so much like a joker/prankster lol 
Are you serious?
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RE: Faith, what is it?
October 29, 2008 at 6:14 am
Does the bible say to believe without doubt and if so what chapter, verse etc.. anyone know
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RE: Faith, what is it?
October 29, 2008 at 8:02 am
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(October 29, 2008 at 6:14 am)Bungy Wrote: Does the bible say to believe without doubt and if so what chapter, verse etc.. anyone know I can't remember where, but I'm sure it does. I'm sure I remember reading that it does.
I'll check it out.
Edit: OK here in the book of Romans: 568. "He that doubteth is damned ... Whosoever is not of faith is sin." 14:23
I got it from the skeptics annotated bible in the 'highlights' section of the bible.
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