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RE: Questions to theists
March 19, 2014 at 4:52 pm (This post was last modified: March 19, 2014 at 4:57 pm by fr0d0.)
(March 19, 2014 at 4:32 pm)shep Wrote:
(March 19, 2014 at 2:27 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: 4. Everything is drawn to good, and justice is served.

In what way is it just that non believers go to hell?

Disbelief, if you're following the dogma, is separation from good.

A non religious view would be that a self harmer deserves his own suffering.

If bad people didn't suffer, then justice wouldn't be served. If your aim is to do good, then you're on Gods side.
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RE: Questions to theists
March 19, 2014 at 4:53 pm
(March 19, 2014 at 4:52 pm)fr0d0 Wrote:
(March 19, 2014 at 4:32 pm)shep Wrote: In what way is it just that non believers go to hell?

Disbelief, if you're following the dogma, is separation from good.

A non religious view would be that a self harmer deserves his own suffering.

Suffering while being alive on earth but not after they die?
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RE: Questions to theists
March 19, 2014 at 5:21 pm (This post was last modified: March 19, 2014 at 5:23 pm by Rabb Allah.)
(March 19, 2014 at 4:34 pm)truthBtold Wrote: That's a loving freak of a sky daddy

As a person who believes in hell I find the Christian notion of hell disturbing. Seems that it is the result of a psychotic and unfair father who has substance abuse issues. A just god is to measure the failing of everyone and in all honesty if we are to compare morality to something that has no concept of morality the only sin we have made is being anything else but a god. So in this concept everyone deserves the hellfire
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#54
RE: Questions to theists
March 19, 2014 at 5:30 pm
(March 19, 2014 at 4:52 pm)fr0d0 Wrote:
(March 19, 2014 at 4:32 pm)shep Wrote: In what way is it just that non believers go to hell?

Disbelief, if you're following the dogma, is separation from good.

And how is disbelief separation from good?
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RE: Questions to theists
March 19, 2014 at 5:46 pm
(March 19, 2014 at 5:30 pm)shep Wrote: And how is disbelief separation from good?

If God is good (what Christians believe) then opposing God is opposing good.
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RE: Questions to theists
March 19, 2014 at 5:47 pm
(March 19, 2014 at 5:46 pm)fr0d0 Wrote:
(March 19, 2014 at 5:30 pm)shep Wrote: And how is disbelief separation from good?

If God is good (what Christians believe) then opposing God is opposing good.

Except that we have pretty good evidence that God is not good. And ZERO evidence that God is good.
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RE: Questions to theists
March 19, 2014 at 6:05 pm
(March 19, 2014 at 5:46 pm)fr0d0 Wrote:
(March 19, 2014 at 5:30 pm)shep Wrote: And how is disbelief separation from good?

If God is good (what Christians believe) then opposing God is opposing good.

And how is lacking a belief in a God opposing it?
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RE: Questions to theists
March 19, 2014 at 6:29 pm (This post was last modified: March 19, 2014 at 6:29 pm by fr0d0.)
(March 19, 2014 at 5:47 pm)tor Wrote:
(March 19, 2014 at 5:46 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: If God is good (what Christians believe) then opposing God is opposing good.

Except that we have pretty good evidence that God is not good. And ZERO evidence that God is good.

Your evidence is based on misunderstanding. Mostly deliberate.
(March 19, 2014 at 6:05 pm)shep Wrote:
(March 19, 2014 at 5:46 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: If God is good (what Christians believe) then opposing God is opposing good.

And how is lacking a belief in a God opposing it?

It isn't.
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RE: Questions to theists
March 19, 2014 at 6:30 pm
(March 19, 2014 at 6:29 pm)fr0d0 Wrote:
(March 19, 2014 at 5:47 pm)tor Wrote: Except that we have pretty good evidence that God is not good. And ZERO evidence that God is good.

Your evidence is based on misunderstanding. Mostly deliberate.
(March 19, 2014 at 6:05 pm)shep Wrote: And how is lacking a belief in a God opposing it?

It isn't.

Show me the correct understanding then.
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RE: Questions to theists
March 19, 2014 at 6:31 pm
(March 19, 2014 at 6:29 pm)fr0d0 Wrote:
(March 19, 2014 at 5:47 pm)tor Wrote: Except that we have pretty good evidence that God is not good. And ZERO evidence that God is good.

Your evidence is based on misunderstanding. Mostly deliberate.
(March 19, 2014 at 6:05 pm)shep Wrote: And how is lacking a belief in a God opposing it?

It isn't.

er, do you believe non believers go to hell?
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