What's a god? And how would a 'sign' from a 'god' be distinguishable from, say, an alien that could produce the same results?
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Will a sign from God will convince us of his existence?
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What's a god? And how would a 'sign' from a 'god' be distinguishable from, say, an alien that could produce the same results?
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RE: Will a sign from God will convince us of his existence?
March 24, 2014 at 9:24 am
(This post was last modified: March 24, 2014 at 9:25 am by Neo-Scholastic.)
From all the above it is clear that when an atheist asks for evidence he is lying. They won't even consider it.
I once saw a sign, it was an image of Jesus on a piece of toast. I looked on it it awe for several minutes. I know it was a sign from God showing me which direction my life should take, but I was so hungry i just ate it. LOL
manowar RE: Will a sign from God will convince us of his existence?
March 24, 2014 at 9:28 am
(This post was last modified: March 24, 2014 at 9:30 am by Fidel_Castronaut.)
(March 24, 2014 at 9:24 am)ChadWooters Wrote: From all the above it is clear that when an atheist asks for evidence he is lying. They won't even consider it. Bollocks and you know it. People are using logic to help inform a deduction as to the difference between an actual 'god' doing something and someone/thing else doing it. You see a fire spontaneously appear in the desert, do you assume it's just 'god' doing its thing? Or do you investigate to see whether some dry wood has caught fire in the extreme heat of the desert or whether something else is at play (which is as of yet unknown). Come on man, do us a favour yeah? Love atheistforums.org? Consider becoming a patreon and helping towards our server costs.
(March 24, 2014 at 9:24 am)ChadWooters Wrote: From all the above it is clear that when an atheist asks for evidence he is lying. They won't even consider it. Usual theist nonsense response of course. All of the examples given are such mundane items any God should be embarrassed to produce them. In simple terms, as I have argued before, an omniscient God has to know what is required to convince any of us. Miracles, for me, are not really what is required unless it is something very dramatic (elimination of AIDS, Malaria or some such, globally and forever). What it would take would be an appearance with some answers to all the questions I would have of him (assuming). He'd have a lot of explaining to do, if he manages that then not only might he convince me he exists he might even convince me he's worthy of worship. The 2 are not synonymous as 1/3rd of all the angels show.
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(March 24, 2014 at 7:48 am)Lawman Wrote: Dear friends, There are thousands of cases where strange things have been proven to be illusions of the mind. Even if it was proven that a God existed and had shown himself to people a dozen times it is still much more likely to be a delusion. (March 24, 2014 at 9:24 am)ChadWooters Wrote: From all the above it is clear that when an atheist asks for evidence he is lying. They won't even consider it.I am considering a god as a possibility. But why should I consider a god as the only possibility at the exclusion of other possibilities? There's isn't enough info in that event to eliminate any possibilities. (March 24, 2014 at 9:24 am)ChadWooters Wrote: From all the above it is clear that when an atheist asks for evidence he is lying. They won't even consider it. I see. So, you read us all recommending a thorough examination of the evidence, removed from preconceptions or biases, in our conversations with theists, and our discussions on science, all over this forum. And yet, when we merely wish to apply the exact same standard to any prospective signs we might receive from a god, you call us dishonest for being consistent and not simply applying your preconceptions and biases?
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Want to see more of my writing? Check out my (safe for work!) site, Unprotected Sects! (March 24, 2014 at 9:39 am)Esquilax Wrote:(March 24, 2014 at 9:24 am)ChadWooters Wrote: From all the above it is clear that when an atheist asks for evidence he is lying. They won't even consider it. Yes but consistency is such a fluid and subjective concept. Love atheistforums.org? Consider becoming a patreon and helping towards our server costs.
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