I believe in God: So Debate me

[MJ the Skeptical]

Except they will probably end up as stories right where they started. But okay, a more appropriate analogy would've been--Religion will be on the fringes and only loonies who still believe in that unproven religious crap will believe in. Most of the world will likely move on from religion once technology and advancement complexly change our lives further, advancements are already stamping out religion. Also, please make an actual argument next time you tell me I'm not making a good argument...

Last that I heard, Muhammad was taken for a loonie during his own time and there was no strong secular movement going on so you still fail.

Hahaha, how completely insipid and shortsighted. I'm not surprised you got the other moron frodo to thumb you.

You ignored the bigger picture of my post which was dismissed because religions still have influence. By your train of logic, Scientology will be the biggest religion someday since it's being laughed at now. The only fail was your own comprehension of what I said.

[Rabb Allah]

Panendeism


Bullshit. Any person with a sane mind knows of the genetic variances amongst animals today and also knows that such genetic information provides data on the biological relationships we all share. Human for example have 97-98% of their DNA in common with apes(not monkeys) today, specifically of the chimpanzee variety which are out distant cousins.

Only an idiotic believes int he complexity of life as the teleological argument is something only liars like William lane Craig would would use.

Also if the universe does not exist because of an infinite cause of events than neither does God. You are making a double standard here as you are asserting that the universe will not suffer an infinite loop although god will for merely being god. If there is no time outside of a universe then there is no infinite loop as whatever exists outside of a space were only time is irrelevant would merely have to exist. Assuming that something entirely free of time cannot create something effected by it makes no sense. You are only providing a possible deity that is infinite in the truest sense

You seem to contradict yourself with fallacies while asserting nothing but fallacies which you think create valid arguments.


You should get a new references site kiddo. Jokes do not make good points for a debate. They do provide laughable axioms though

These are nothing more than Red Herring Fallacies. You're the one who claims to believe in God, and you also just demonstrated that the universe can be eternal, thus contradicting the theistic argument that God could have created the universe.

You have no idea what a Red Herring is apparently. I also never stated that the universe could create itself because the universe is a closed bubble. What happens here stays here much like Las Vegas(although I hear that is not entirely true).

Please try pointing out where I proved that the universe could be eternal after I just thwarted it with gusto. If you cannot then it only serves to prove that you are babbling nonsense.

[Cyberman]

I think you need a new can of Gusto. Yours appears to be empty.

[Rabb Allah]

I'm still wondering how Mahmoud A Dinnerjacket here differentiates between the god he claims exists and other supernatural entities. Coincidentally, it just happens to be the God he was raised to believe in.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

I will treat you as an idiot(which you are) from here on out and forever.

1. I was never raised to believe in the god I believe.
2. I do not differentiate shit.
3. I do not even believe in "supernatural entities"
4. Coincidentally the god I believe in has nothing to do with anything I was ever taught.
5. You assume to much and are thus objectively stupid.
6. You are worthless and if eugenics was brought back you would be the first to go.

He's not arguing (very well at all) for the Christian God, Hindu God, or a general bland creator deity. No, those Gods don't exist; but Allah does.

I have been a Christian, Hindu and Muslim in the past although my brush with Hinduism was more intellectual and I have only truly been a Christian and a Muslim.

Why? How do you know it's Allah?

I never said god is objectivelly called Allah it is just the fact that the world Allah is unisex. Al-ilah is male and al-Ilaha is female and Allah is unisex. It is just the best word possible to remove gender. Sikhs use the word Allah, as do Christians and Muslims. But Allah is a pagan name with pagan connotations.

What compels any of us to give more credence to
the alternate form of the God character the Christians stole from the Jews, and the Islamics stole from the Christians?

I have never asked for any credence from you. I am not exactly asking for inferior biological units to acknowledge me so I sure as hell do not care about your concerns towards my convictions.
The Muhammadians stole Allah from the pagans and fused Judaism and Christianity into it. So you are historically wrong on that bit by the way but I cannot expect much from something like yourself obviously .

Why does that intangible supernatural being with no evidence exist, but other supernatural beings do not?

Why do multiple hypothesis exist for the Abiogenesis process? Why do multiple models and theories exist to explain it? Why do multiple religions exist to explain God(who I dubbed Allah)?

I have only concluded 5 things about God

1. All religions are wrong
2. Only Natural Theologies hold actual understanding of god
3. Each of these natural theologies should be taken as theoretical approaches to the Divinity Dilemma.
4. My own(along with others) theology seems the most plausible.
5. Because of it's plausibility I apply it to the natural world.


I doubt you will understand that because you are not very bright, could be inbreeding maybe or retardation but who knows.

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I think you need a new can of Gusto. Yours appears to be empty.

Just got a new can . I got re-motivated today after listening to one of my favorite Sikhs.

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[Rampant.A.I.]

[Michael Schubert]

[Rabb Allah]

[Esquilax]

I am a Panendeist so everytime I think I have evidence God exist. So your claim is bullshit

That's begging the question, as your thoughts could only be evidence of the god you claim exists if you assume that god exists to cause them in the first place. Taken in a vacuum, your thoughts are evidence of thoughts.

[Cyberman]

Totally off-topic, but why do we keep getting theists who act like complete arseholes?

[pocaracas]

Totally off-topic, but why do we keep getting theists who act like complete arseholes?

Comes with the territory, I guess...