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RE: The Historical Jesus is real and He rose from the grave
March 29, 2014 at 11:03 am
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(March 29, 2014 at 6:13 am)Esquilax Wrote: (March 29, 2014 at 5:40 am)Jacob(smooth) Wrote: That bits a metaphor! DUR!
I choose to believe that your post is a metaphor too.
Well, if it is what you truly believe, it must be as un-impeachably true as science, logic and even the bible. No one can argue with that kind of reasoning .. apparently.
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RE: The Historical Jesus is real and He rose from the grave
March 29, 2014 at 1:39 pm
I used to believe that Rev, until I woke up and discovered the dream was in fact a nightmare and the biggest load of shit ever thought up.
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RE: The Historical Jesus is real and He rose from the grave
March 29, 2014 at 2:36 pm
(March 29, 2014 at 9:11 am)Revelation777 Wrote: I understand where you are coming from. I understand you are looking for evidence.
I am honestly baffled as to why you didn't go on to present some evidence. Now we're all just standing around here looking awkward and avoiding eye contact.
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RE: The Historical Jesus is real and He rose from the grave
March 29, 2014 at 2:54 pm
(March 28, 2014 at 10:39 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: We are reminded of this event every day. Not a day goes by where you don't hear His name mentioned, hear a song praising Him, drive by a church, see someone wearing a cross, or hear a verse from the Bible.
Jesus predicted His death and resurrection while He was alive. He tomb was empty on three days after His death. He appeared to His disciples. These men's lives were changed and God used them to change the world. Paul and 500 others have seen the risen Christ. The early church grew greatly even with terrible persecution speaks of the power of this Truth. Greatest evidence is the transformation of millions of lives of born again believers.
Sorry - but there is NOT a single piece of evidence that is NOT hearsay - that proves that the christ was anything but a religious Myth
The claim that millions of lives were transformed -then you accept the Buddhism has done the same thing
The bible - which cannot be verified as to author - contains enough fairy tales - legends - and incorrect things to render is useless as a way to prove anything. HOWEVER _ since it is a religious document - and was created by the two religions - it is the CLAIM - not proof.
So your claim has been stated - support it with proof OUTSIDE Of the bible - which we do not accept as being real - nor do the majority of people in the world.
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RE: The Historical Jesus is real and He rose from the grave
March 29, 2014 at 2:57 pm
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(March 29, 2014 at 2:36 pm)Esquilax Wrote: (March 29, 2014 at 9:11 am)Revelation777 Wrote: I understand where you are coming from. I understand you are looking for evidence.
I am honestly baffled as to why you didn't go on to present some evidence. Now we're all just standing around here looking awkward and avoiding eye contact.
Tomb is empty
(March 29, 2014 at 2:54 pm)ThomM Wrote: (March 28, 2014 at 10:39 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: We are reminded of this event every day. Not a day goes by where you don't hear His name mentioned, hear a song praising Him, drive by a church, see someone wearing a cross, or hear a verse from the Bible.
Jesus predicted His death and resurrection while He was alive. He tomb was empty on three days after His death. He appeared to His disciples. These men's lives were changed and God used them to change the world. Paul and 500 others have seen the risen Christ. The early church grew greatly even with terrible persecution speaks of the power of this Truth. Greatest evidence is the transformation of millions of lives of born again believers.
Sorry - but there is NOT a single piece of evidence that is NOT hearsay - that proves that the christ was anything but a religious Myth
The claim that millions of lives were transformed -then you accept the Buddhism has done the same thing
The bible - which cannot be verified as to author - contains enough fairy tales - legends - and incorrect things to render is useless as a way to prove anything. HOWEVER _ since it is a religious document - and was created by the two religions - it is the CLAIM - not proof.
So your claim has been stated - support it with proof OUTSIDE Of the bible - which we do not accept as being real - nor do the majority of people in the world.
His tomb is empty, that is enough for me.
(March 29, 2014 at 9:15 am)Bad Writer Wrote: Rev, you need to be searching for evidence too. You shouldn't just stop at the first god claim that comes your way and call it good. If your search doesn't turn up sufficient evidence, then what do you think that might mean?
Some of the evidences I go by is my changed life, the Truth of Scripture, and the changed lives of others
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RE: The Historical Jesus is real and He rose from the grave
March 29, 2014 at 3:03 pm
An empty tomb or an empty garage is not evidence of anything .. fuck!!!
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RE: The Historical Jesus is real and He rose from the grave
March 29, 2014 at 3:06 pm
(March 29, 2014 at 2:57 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: Tomb is empty
You glib, ridiculous little man. How do you know the tomb was empty? How do you know where the tomb is? How do you know there was a tomb, or that Jesus was in it, or that Jesus existed to occupy the tomb, or that even if the tomb was empty, it was for the reasons the bible states?
See, this is where simplistic non-answers aren't helpful, and where real evidence comes in. If you're actually aiming to convert anyone, as seems to be your goal here, then you absolutely need to be doing better than this snippy bullshit, because right now, you are doing more harm for your cause and credibility than good.
You could at least attempt to engage in debate and conversation. What you're doing right now is downright insulting to our intelligence.
Quote:Some of the evidences I go by is my changed life, the Truth of Scripture, and the changed lives of others
So, your evidence that a book is factual is that people got some fuzzy feelings from it, and that the book is factual?
Are you just making fun of us?
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RE: The Historical Jesus is real and He rose from the grave
March 29, 2014 at 3:06 pm
(March 29, 2014 at 3:03 pm)truthBtold Wrote: An empty tomb or an empty garage is not evidence of anything .. fuck!!!
I dunno dude, my empty garage is proof that someone stole my Ferrari.
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RE: The Historical Jesus is real and He rose from the grave
March 29, 2014 at 3:08 pm
(March 29, 2014 at 3:06 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: (March 29, 2014 at 3:03 pm)truthBtold Wrote: An empty tomb or an empty garage is not evidence of anything .. fuck!!!
I dunno dude, my empty garage is proof that someone stole my Ferrari.
I got it.. vroooom see u sucka!!!!
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RE: The Historical Jesus is real and He rose from the grave
March 29, 2014 at 3:36 pm
Well that wasn't worth the wait.
The tomb. Where should we even start explaining that that isn't an argument or evidence.
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
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