The Historical Jesus is real and He rose from the grave

[Minimalist]

If God said it, I believe it.

Yeah - that's your problem.

[Fidel_Castronaut]

Yeah, that's kind of the point at issue, isn't it, you simpleton?

You can call me a simpleton as long as I am loved of the Lord. He loves you too!

There's no such thing.

[truthBtold]

Yeah, that's kind of the point at issue, isn't it, you simpleton?

You can call me a simpleton as long as I am loved of the Lord. He loves you too!

R u sure god loves u? Did he tell u in an audible voice?

[Fidel_Castronaut]

would you allow me to cite a source with the answer?

Wow, do you seriously not get that we've been trying to prompt you into giving citations for your claims literally since the start of these threads?

I hope he replies to this.

[Crossless2.0]

Yeah, that's kind of the point at issue, isn't it, you simpleton?

You can call me a simpleton as long as I am loved of the Lord. He loves you too!

Passive-aggressiveness is no substitute for evidence and reasoned debate on a debate forum, simpleton.

[MJ the Skeptical]

Yeah, that's kind of the point at issue, isn't it, you simpleton?

You can call me a simpleton as long as I am loved of the Lord. He loves you too!

You meant to say "she" right?

[Esquilax]

You can call me a simpleton as long as I am loved of the Lord. He loves you too!

It's shit like this that demonstrates how disrespectfully uninterested you are in carrying on an actual dialogue.

[Revelation777]

God, three persons, one God

Babbling nonsense. Even the best minds of Christianity for 2,000 years could not figure out how that works. Get back to me if you can succeed where they failed.

requires the shedding of blood for the forgiveness of sins.

Required by who?

Did Yahweh, your god, require that of himself?

So your god required himself to bleed in order to allow himself to forgive us?

So he needed to sacrifice himself to himself because bleeding on a cross was the only way that he could convince himself to change the rules he made in the first place and forgive us for being sinful beings which we are because the devil spoke through a snake to convince the rib-woman, who was not the least bit surprised to have a snake talk to her, to eat a magic fruit.

He gave us a free will.

Chapter and verse, please.

Satan, use a creature from the garden to speak to and deceive the woman.

Chapter and verse, please.

You see, I'm even easier than Stimbo. You don't have to prove your claims to me (yet). Right now, all I'm requiring is that you show me that all this comes from The Bible and not your imagination.

On Free Will
Prov 16:9
Josh 24:15
John 7:17
Rev 3:20
Gal 5:16,17

Concerning Satan - Gen 3:1 combined with Rev 20:2

[Crossless2.0]

On Free Will
Prov 16:9
Josh 24:15
John 7:17
Rev 3:20
Gal 5:16,17

Concerning Satan - Gen 3:1 combined with Rev 20:2

Oh, look! Someone has broken out the topical Bible.

[Confused Ape]

A question for Revelation777. I went to see what Judaism had to say about the Trinity. The following article is about the Hebrew language and how it's used in the Torah.

Why is God’s Name “Elohim” Plural?

Bear in mind, there is no mystery as to the origins of the Trinity, nor is there any secret for how this aberrant doctrine emerged. The doctrine of the Trinity was forged out of the crucible of the Catholic Church long after the Christian century. It is, therefore, no wonder that this pagan doctrine was unknown to authors of the New Testament (click here to see list). Church history reveals that it was not until three hundred years after the birth of Christianity that the doctrine of the Bianity (325 C.E.) and Trinity (381 C.E.) received formal approval in the Christian community. These well documented events occurred under circumstances rife with contention, political agitation, and radical dissension in the early Church.

In essence, the Jewish people never believed in a Trinity, and the Church adopted it under enormous political pressure from the most pagan segments of the young Catholic Church. Understandably, missionaries undertake a formidable task when they seek to prove this fourth century doctrine from a radically monotheistic Torah which is timeless.

So, according to your beliefs God created Adam and Eve and selected Abraham and his descendants to be his chosen people, yet, for most of human history he never bothered to establish the fact that he's a trinity. Why did he wait for 300 years after Christianity started before telling anyone?