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RE: Write the questions believers don't want to hear.
April 3, 2014 at 9:09 pm
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(April 3, 2014 at 7:17 pm)Alex K Wrote: Your such a pedant 
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RE: Write the questions believers don't want to hear.
April 3, 2014 at 9:26 pm
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(April 3, 2014 at 7:09 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I have a single question I'd like to ask an atheist.
'Zip: Doesn't it trouble you in the least to question the intelligence of believers when your questions are a perfect model of poor spelling, grammar, punctuation, sentence structure, word choice and presentation?'
Learn basic English, mate. Atheists like you make the rest of us look bad.
Boru
English is my second language, I live in Mexico city, You know how many times I use English in here?
But you have a point, If there are any spelling mistakes I apologize.
Quote:*Why while you deny other religions it's so hard for you to accept the fact that I accept yours?
Ohh yeah I meant
Why while you deny other religions it's so hard for you to accept the fact that I don't accept yours?
I would Have changed now but the forum won't let me.
And to be honest I haven't been able to check the thread I'm kind of busy for the moment, with this guy.
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Be respectful, Be polite, Be ………..Oh who the hell I'm I kidding?
TAKE THAT, IN YOU'RE FACE CHRISTIANS HA!!!
BlueAxle
hahahahaha funny that you think this video is a victory for anti-bible advocates. Nope its not.
Me
Pay attention boys and girls: Denial is the most predictable of all human responses.
BlueAxle
And that is your proof that the bible is not true? Good one.....not really.
Me
And we shouldn't take in count other religious myths that came before christianity as an example of plagiarism because? 
BlueAxle
"Other myths"? the bible is not a myth.
Me
Prove it? And why you do that, tell me why you're proves are different from among other religious proves? And if you're gonna pretend to argue with me could you at least answer my last question you know the one where I say:
Why we shouldn't take in count other religious myths that came before christianity as an example of plagiarism?
BlueAxle
see 1 john 1;1
Me
And that answer my questions how? Why should that argument has more relevance that all the other religious arguments that differ from him? Is this the same John who say's everyone who disagrees with him is the anticrist?(John 2;22) There-fore the other 67% of the world is filled with antichrists? Is the baby of my jewish friend the Antichrist? Is his grandma the antichrist? And doesn't that contradict(John 13;34)? Should I love the antichist? And the dinosours in John 1;1?
And if God can be seen and heard (Ex 33;23) Is john lying or he lacks the faith enough to see god?( John 1;18/ John 5;37)
In James 1;5/ Luke 11;10 Is John greedy? (John 12;40)
And you know there is also the "why we shouldn't take in count other religious myths that came before christianity as an example of plagiarism?"
BlueAxle
difference is that writers of the bible gave evidenc that what the wrote is from God, writers of other books didnt
Me
Prove it. And why you do that, tell me why you're proves are different from among other religious proves? (mmm Deja Vu) along with you know our modern science and proven history evidence as well.
AND HOW MANY TIMES I HAVE TO WRITE IT? Why we shouldn't take in count other religious myths that came before christianity as an example of plagiarism?
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BlueAxle
Word the question in a better way, the myths
Me
Why? I think the question is very well formulated? How would you put it?
BlueAxle
I don't know because I don't know what it is you are trying to say
Me
I'm agreeing with JaclynGlenn you know that Jesus is a LIE(it's right there on the title man) because it is a plagiarism of other religious myths. And you said no. And I asked "Why we shouldn't take in count other religious myths that came before christianity as an example of plagiarism? " And so far you haven't answered the question.
Weren't you paying attention?
BlueAxle
The other writings are frauds. writers of them gave no evidence that it was from God
Me
Niether the bible.
BlueAxle
yeah they did. Just because you reject the evidence don't mean it aint evidence
Me
Where is the evidence? Who presented it?
What criteria was used to qualify as evidence? Why it disapproves the other religions evidence? What kind of education do the people who presented the evidence had? Where they experts? Does that evidence solve the bible contradictions and mistakes? Where can I see it? How it disapproves all the modern science evidence?
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RE: Write the questions believers don't want to hear.
April 4, 2014 at 2:34 am
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There were lots of questions I hated to hear as a Christian.
"do you know how fast you were going sir?"
"daddy, does shampoo stain walls?"
"do you know about reflexology "
"any chance you could get done by tomorrow"
But regarding religion, i rather enjoyed any question, provided it was not asked in a smugly condescending tone. That's annoying whoevers doing it. As in "you believe in the big bang huh. Answer me this then, what exploded [smirk].
Any question you pose will have been answered. The answer will not satisfy you but it will satisfy your target. The debate then becomes why do you accept that answer.
Oh and I can give anyone a break Re grammar if English isn't their first language. I'm in Northern Ireland teaching atm and I'm struggling with the dialect. Asked for a Bushmills last night, the person buying said "if they don't have one of those, what'll it be". Had to bite my tongue not to say "slightly disappointing"
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Through passion, I gain strength.
Through strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken."
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RE: Write the questions believers don't want to hear.
April 4, 2014 at 4:54 am
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List Of Christian Denominations In The World
There are 33K Protestant denominations in the world for a start. Then there's Eastern Orthodoxy, Oriental Orthodoxy, Roman Catholicism and newer ones such as the Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses.
Which denomination is the right one because they all teach different things? It would be awful to become a Baptist only to discover that we should have been something else. How do we know which one to convert to?
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RE: Write the questions believers don't want to hear.
April 4, 2014 at 5:34 am
(April 4, 2014 at 2:34 am)Jacob(smooth) Wrote: Oh and I can give anyone a break Re grammar if English isn't their first language. I'm in Northern Ireland teaching atm and I'm struggling with the dialect. Asked for a Bushmills last night, the person buying said "if they don't have one of those, what'll it be". Had to bite my tongue not to say "slightly disappointing"
Ah Bushmills, the best of Irish Whiskeys. 10yo single malt or black bush?
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
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RE: Write the questions believers don't want to hear.
April 4, 2014 at 6:14 am
(April 4, 2014 at 5:34 am)Alex K Wrote: (April 4, 2014 at 2:34 am)Jacob(smooth) Wrote: Oh and I can give anyone a break Re grammar if English isn't their first language. I'm in Northern Ireland teaching atm and I'm struggling with the dialect. Asked for a Bushmills last night, the person buying said "if they don't have one of those, what'll it be". Had to bite my tongue not to say "slightly disappointing"
Ah Bushmills, the best of Irish Whiskeys. 10yo single malt or black bush? I think it was the 10. I try to make it a rule to drink whatever the country I'm speaking in produces. It was nice but the Tomintoul I had as a nightcap in my room remains king.
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Through passion, I gain strength.
Through strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken."
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RE: Write the questions believers don't want to hear.
April 4, 2014 at 6:20 am
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(April 4, 2014 at 6:14 am)Jacob(smooth) Wrote: (April 4, 2014 at 5:34 am)Alex K Wrote: Ah Bushmills, the best of Irish Whiskeys. 10yo single malt or black bush? I think it was the 10. I try to make it a rule to drink whatever the country I'm speaking in produces. It was nice but the Tomintoul I had as a nightcap in my room remains king. That's unfair, that's a scotch!
p.s. the irish whiskey industry is really not in such a great shape, is it? Mostly big corporations buying up stuff like irish distillers, not much varietiy, at least none that makes it onto the continent. It's a pity.
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RE: Write the questions believers don't want to hear.
April 4, 2014 at 1:39 pm
why do you use the bible to prove the bible?
So 2 people is all you need to convince you?
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RE: Write the questions believers don't want to hear.
April 4, 2014 at 2:01 pm
Why do Adam and Eve have belly buttons? (this might be easier for them to brush off but it still shows how man-made the religion actually is. Xian's usually don't like Adam and Eve questions)
Wouldn't most of the animals die of low oxygen at 30,000 feet in the air or die of hypothermia on Noah's Ark? (they hate any noah's ark question, they will just say god magically made it work)
Can God make a rock so big, he can't even lift it? (this shows the contradiction with omnipotence and in my opinion is still a good refutation of omnipotence in the universe, theists get butthurt)
Is there free will in heaven? (this basically shows them that you aren't yourself in heaven because you have no free will to choose anything or know you're there)
So you admit that it was okay for Muhammad to merry an elementary school girl, because "it was a different time"? (unfortunately they usually will say it was okay for him back then to do so)
Are you aware that religions themself are historical lineages to men writing things down by committee? (this one makes them mad, they'll say, "god inspired them" but it's an ad-hawk excuse)
So Adam and Eve acted for all of humanity? Isn't that like going to jail for someone elses crime? (they usually answer honestly but don't realize it shows the immorality of what they're saying)
Muhammad flew to heaven on a winged horse? So where's heaven? (the answer they give is, yes, miracle just happen and science is blind, heaven is everywhere around us, stupid atheist)
Do you deny Evolution and Biochemistry and Cosmology because it undermines your religion? (they never usually admit it, but the answer is obviously yes if the deny science)
Why don't miracles happen anymore? (they usually claim we don't deserve to see miracles like the people back then, but morally we are 100x better, so why the fuck not? I ask)
Is there any amount of evidence that could change your mind? (usually the answer is no and makes them look close-minded, but it's good to see if they are actually open to empiricism)
If the hypothetical idea of an afterlife means more to you than the objectively true reality we all share, then you deserve no respect.
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RE: Write the questions believers don't want to hear.
April 4, 2014 at 2:17 pm
(April 3, 2014 at 6:49 pm)Zid Wrote: *What race where Adam and eve? Human?
I don't think that these long lists of attempted "gotcha" questions ever work. Most theists do have a reply to those questions, and many of them are a bit involved, and you can't really answer any of them if you expect them all to be answered. Based on some of your posts here, I get the impression that you are seeking some foolproof formula for winning internet debates. Aside from "walk away and find something productive to do" I don't think there's any formula that works very well.
Just read the threads and take part in the discussion and focus your efforts on learning. Eventually you'll either find that magic argument that crushes theist dreams, or you'll realize that it's futile, or you'll convert and annoy the other half of the people you know.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
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