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Christian "purpose" and "meaning" in life.
RE: Christian "purpose" and "meaning" in life.
(May 25, 2014 at 11:48 am)ChadWooters Wrote: Jesus drove out my demons. He promised and He delivered.

Does a demon fleeing your body feel like a wet fart?
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RE: Christian "purpose" and "meaning" in life.
(May 26, 2014 at 5:33 am)Godschild Wrote: God knows

False. You only know about the fictional character what your nonsensical religion and your delusional brain are informing you.

You honestly need to stop referring to that fictional character called god as though he is real other than outside of your deluded mind. I first demand verifiable evidence of his existence that does not entail me foregoing with reason in order to accept something irrational based on fallible faith.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
~ Erin Hunter
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RE: Christian "purpose" and "meaning" in life.
(May 26, 2014 at 8:52 am)Kitanetos Wrote:
(May 26, 2014 at 5:33 am)Godschild Wrote: God knows

False. You only know about the fictional character what your nonsensical religion and your delusional brain are informing you.

You honestly need to stop referring to that fictional character called god as though he is real other than outside of your deluded mind. I first demand verifiable evidence of his existence that does not entail me foregoing with reason in order to accept something irrational based on fallible faith.

Demand all you want, I'm not paying you any interest.

GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: Christian "purpose" and "meaning" in life.
(May 26, 2014 at 10:32 am)Godschild Wrote: Demand all you want, I'm not paying you any interest.

GC

Then to you, I state, That which can be accepted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence..
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
~ Erin Hunter
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RE: Christian "purpose" and "meaning" in life.
(May 21, 2014 at 3:15 pm)Godschild Wrote:
(May 21, 2014 at 1:42 pm)Bad Writer Wrote: Records can be falsified, although I have no reason to believe you would do that, GC. I have a feeling you try to be genuinely honest.

This is actually a very good example of a claim that requires little-to-no evidence. The same honestly goes for my claim that I'm an atheist. And on that, you can either take my word for it or leave it.

The question is, are you going to start treating me like anything other than an atheist now due to your sudden and unexpected bout of mistrust? That would really be very silly and will get us nowhere in discussions.

Atheist require proof from Christians and I've given mine, all I ask is the atheist do the same as I was willing to do. I've seen all to often that atheist say all claims need proof, am I suppose to just ignore the claim that all claims require proof, or do atheist believe that only applies to Christians, personally I do not think that was the meaning. By the way I'm not doing this out of mistrust and the way you answer my posts we get nowhere any way, so if you believe it's mistrust I'm showing it wouldn't matter in our discussion anyway.

GC

No. We require evidence - they are not the same thing.
Skepticism is not a position; it is an approach to claims.
Science is not a subject, but a method.
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Christian "purpose" and "meaning" in life.
(May 26, 2014 at 5:33 am)Godschild Wrote:
(May 26, 2014 at 12:08 am)Luckie Wrote: As far as I know, Jesus didn't even move a mountain. And it's pretty clear according to the bible that gods power
holds all things together and commands everything. So technically, yeah, you are supposed to be able to do anything
god wants you to do. Unfortunately for you, he's witholding those special power source keys until the "end of days".


Was there a real need for Him to raise a mountain. Through the Father He healed the sick, healed the lame, healed the blind, removed demons and most people still did not believe in Him, so why move a mountain.


Bible Wrote:John 15:5

"I am the vine; you are the branches. If you remain in me and I in you, you will bear much fruit; apart from me
you can do nothing."

Luckie Wrote:I see a whole lot of people "apart from him" doing something. Atheists and Muslims and Jehovah's witness and
Mormons , Buddhists, Hindu's, Jews, and all of the other people you claim are without your god and his son Jesus
Christ.

Really, you see those people bearing the spiritual fruit to bring the lost to Christ, as Jesus said apart from Him no one can do such a thing.

Bible Wrote:Exodus 15:26 He said, "If you listen carefully to the voice of the LORD your God and do what is right in his
eyes, if you pay attention to his commands and keep all his decrees, I will not bring on you any of the diseases
I brought on the Egyptians, for I am the LORD, who heals you."

Luckie Wrote:Is your God just evil or does he seriously not watch the news?! I'll spare you the starving children photo this
time and opt for this video instead.

God knows before the news reveals to us the problems going on in the world, tell me why do you think God should heal all the sick or solve any terrible matters that man has made. Why shouldn't He let us wallow in this mire we've made. Do you believe He has to because He is God or is this just your defensive argument against God.

Luckie Wrote:I guess these little ones just didn't pray purely enough-- or didn't have the faith of a child.

Maybe someone like you (not pointing directly at you) did not do as God asked, God created us to help each other, could be God actually called someone to be a doctor and they refused and so some child suffered for the lack of another. God created us to help others and I know you do but for different reasons. Those reasons still wouldn't cancel out the heart God gave you to help others, you follow your heart and others benefit from what God gave you. Doesn't matter whither you like it or not, God is accomplishing things even through those who refuse to see and hear Him. He's at work in others lives no matter how they believe, omniscience and omnipotence have their benefits, even with those who do not believe.

Luckie Wrote:I rather like to think I'm terms of Reality when it comes to childhood cancer, or when I visit my friend Heather
who fell off a horse and can't move neck down anymore. In nature, cancer is naturally occurring and there are
reasons for it. In all reality, my friend losing her physical freedom isn't part of some 'plan'.

You're right cancer has a reason, mostly from all the chemicals man has introduced into the world, God didn't do it. You see I'm one who doesn't believe God goes around giving people illnesses, we suffer from our own greed and self importance. I do believe those who are unfortunate enough to contract a terrible disease can find peace in God and at times special healing. God gave us men and women smart enough to be doctors to help mankind out off the physical problems we've caused for ourselves. God makes it rain on the good and the bad, the sun shines on the same and this holds for the sick. God's grace reaches far and wide.
You are probably correct about Heather, it was most likely an accident, no one's fault, but rest assured God has a plan for her if she accepts it, why hasn't He healed her I don't know, the future doesn't belong to me. God can giver her a spiritual freedom.

Luckie Wrote:Unfortunately for us we are just as susceptible to cancer or damage as anything else--because we are no different than a mouse, a tree,
or a grain of rice. I mention rice because it has almost double the amount of genes as humans do, which I find
an interesting fact to throw at those who think they're hardwired by god to be superior.

Actually I do not agree, God has placed us far above anything else in this world, Jesus said how much more will He do for us than the sparrow He gives shelter and food, think spiritual, things become far clearer.
If it's your desire to believe you are worth no more than a grain of rice, then have at it. Personally I see myself far superior to what I eat and I know God does and I know so on a personal level and experience with Him.

GC

We know you are conceited and self righteous enough in your superiority complex to accuse atheists of being as worthless as grains of rice.

We know you can't accept that you evolved from the same ancestor as modern day apes.

We know that tossing word salad about Jesus is more comforting to you than actually learning anything about biology or physics, and that keeping yourself as ignorant and gullible as a child is something you take pride in.

Some of us actually enjoy learning about the world around ourselves, and are happy to know people like you have consistently failed to dumb down the grade school curriculum you failed out of, and replace it with the simple fairytales you choose over an actual education.
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RE: Christian "purpose" and "meaning" in life.
Rampant resorts to insults.
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RE: Christian "purpose" and "meaning" in life.
(May 26, 2014 at 8:56 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: Rampant resorts to insults.

Except they were true. So, there's that.
Skepticism is not a position; it is an approach to claims.
Science is not a subject, but a method.
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RE: Christian "purpose" and "meaning" in life.
(May 26, 2014 at 8:56 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: Rampant resorts to insults.

And with that Chadwooters starts his 5th season of professional dodgeball..
Find the cure for Fundementia!
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RE: Christian "purpose" and "meaning" in life.
(May 26, 2014 at 10:51 am)Kitanetos Wrote:
(May 26, 2014 at 10:32 am)Godschild Wrote: Demand all you want, I'm not paying you any interest.

GC

Then to you, I state, That which can be accepted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence..

Oh so original. Copy cats are boring, dull little things.

GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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