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RE: How did god create the universe?
April 18, 2014 at 2:48 pm
(April 18, 2014 at 6:58 am)fr0d0 Wrote: "God" isn't an answer to any scientific question. The only real answer to origins is that we don't know.
The theological first cause argument posits a singularity. Yet another theological argument posits a non time delimited dimension: God is permanently extant. Ultimately none of these satisfy the something from nothing question.
So why posit the additional complex, unwarranted, non-explanation then?
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RE: How did god create the universe?
April 18, 2014 at 5:38 pm
(April 18, 2014 at 2:48 pm)Rampant.A.I. Wrote: (April 18, 2014 at 6:58 am)fr0d0 Wrote: "God" isn't an answer to any scientific question. The only real answer to origins is that we don't know.
The theological first cause argument posits a singularity. Yet another theological argument posits a non time delimited dimension: God is permanently extant. Ultimately none of these satisfy the something from nothing question.
So why posit the additional complex, unwarranted, non-explanation then?
Nobody has an answer. That doesn't stop us trying to work it out. Would you rather we didn't?
I would disagree. I think we need to try.
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How did god create the universe?
April 18, 2014 at 5:52 pm
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Oh, right: you have a secret "rational argument" that only works inside your head, with evidence that is non-transferable, for why it's a valid complex, unwarranted non-explanation.
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RE: How did god create the universe?
April 18, 2014 at 6:24 pm
Say what?!
No. I already said... I have no answer.
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RE: How did god create the universe?
April 18, 2014 at 7:05 pm
(April 18, 2014 at 7:56 am)professor Wrote: God made the world with WORDS.
This is one reason why we will give account for every useless word, and by our words we will be justified or by our words we will be condemned.
How is that different than saying, "god swam the universe into existence".
If you appeal to magic, you can explain anything. Works great for those frightening unknowns, huh?
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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RE: How did god create the universe?
April 18, 2014 at 9:16 pm
In the beginning was the WORD and the word was God.
By Him were all things made.
And the Word became flesh.
So, God made the world with words of power.
Makes more sense to me than, "all this came from nothing that exploded".
We OBSERVE that life comes from life.
Hint- God is the living God.
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RE: How did god create the universe?
April 18, 2014 at 9:32 pm
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(April 18, 2014 at 9:16 pm)professor Wrote: Makes more sense to me than, "all this came from nothing that exploded".
Indeed. The idea that the universe began as a singularity which underwent expansion is absolutely ridiculous when set next to the idea that an invisible monster from outside time and space and with severe psychological issues magicked everything into existence with a few words.
Of course it makes sense to you. You're an idiot and a simpleton.
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RE: How did god create the universe?
April 18, 2014 at 9:58 pm
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(April 18, 2014 at 9:16 pm)professor Wrote: In the beginning was the WORD and the word was God.
By Him were all things made.
And the Word became flesh.
So, God made the world with words of power.
Makes more sense to me than, "all this came from nothing that exploded".
We OBSERVE that life comes from life.
Hint- God is the living God.
Given what we've learned about the universe over time, it really really doesn't make more sense to me. Yes we've observed that life comes from life. We've observed how stars and planets formed. We have not observed things coming into existence by willing them to exist.
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RE: How did god create the universe?
April 19, 2014 at 2:44 am
(April 18, 2014 at 9:16 pm)professor Wrote: In the beginning was the WORD and the word was God.
By Him were all things made.
And the Word became flesh.
So, God made the world with words of power.
"Watch me double down on my nonsense in the hopes that you'll all fail to notice me completely dodging all of your contentions!"
Quote:Makes more sense to me than, "all this came from nothing that exploded".
"Now here's a strawman! Obviously I've either not bothered to understand the things I claim to disagree with, or I'm flat out lying in defense of my beliefs! Either way, what a jackass thing to say, eh?"
Sorry fucker, we haven't forgotten: you've dodged all the issues, and that's not going to happen. You're still just pushing the problem a step back: the question is how, not what, and all the trite preaching in the world isn't going to answer that question.
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RE: How did god create the universe?
April 19, 2014 at 3:02 am
(April 18, 2014 at 9:16 pm)professor Wrote: In the beginning was the WORD and the word was God.
By Him were all things made.
And the Word became flesh.
So, God made the world with words of power.
Makes more sense to me than, "all this came from nothing that exploded".
We OBSERVE that life comes from life.
Hint- God is the living God.
Yeah...we get it. You know how to recite fairy tales. Do you have any other tricks? Maybe roll over and play dead?
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