Argument #1: Transitional Fossils

[Chas]

I predict that nothing we can say is going to change Rev's mind. He really doesn't understand the theory of evolution, and based on the links he provided to creationist propaganda, he doesn't want to learn either. This is just an exercise in futility.

Is it your job to change my mind? I doubt I can change yours. However, we can contemplate what each other has to offer.

But you have nothing to offer.

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Let's go over this again:
<God exists> + <God has always existed> + <God is all powerful> + <God created the universe> each have no evidence, yet each premise is required for a theist or deist viewpoint.

<Abiogenesis might be how life originated> has evidence behind it.

How are these two "interchangeable" by any stretch of the imagination?

You have a theory with evidence, and somehow have equated that to an unfounded assertion that there must be some sort of magical being, somewhere in the universe, that is empirically unverifiable, unfalsifiable (and therefore not scientific), and this magical being suddenly becomes an "alternative choice" to a well-founded theory with supporting evidence.

What is this, amateur hour?

It's the same as saying <lightening is an electrostatic discharge between charged clouds and the planet> or <Thor exists> <Thor is the God of Thunder and Lightning> therefore <Thor causes lighting> are interchangeable "theories."

What?

In the same vein: Either God exists, or I have a piece of lint in my pocket. I have a piece of lint in my pocket, therefore God does not exist.

Someone should write a mobile app where you can shake your device, and 2-3 random premises appear with a conclusion.

I guarantee you some of the Theists on this board would start copy-pasting arguments whenever they ended in "Therefore God"

You base your beliefs, and they are beliefs, on what you observe naturally. God, is a supernatural being. He created a natural world but there are also supernatural events that have occurred, are presently occurring, and will occur. Just because you have not experienced any doesn't mean the supernatural doesn't exist.

There is no evidence of anything supernatural. Do you also believe in unicorns, ghosts, demons, succubi, incubi, ... ?

[Anomalocaris]

Revs, back in post 237, I asked you a question that you still have not answered.

Let's say, hypothetically, in spite of your complete faith in Jesus, god and bible, these really are all lies. How would you detect the fact that these are lies?

Would you answer be "I have complete faith therefore I need no facility for detecting lies"?

If that is the case, then it would seem if Jesus, god, and bible really are lies, you would have no procedure in place to detect the lie, and therefore you would believe them whether they are true, or they are lies.

Since you would believe them even if they are lies because you have no valid, repeatable procedure to validate them, then the fact you believe them should in no way be presented an any sort of argument in favor of your belief.

What do you think?

[Chas]

Are the next six also going to be blatant falsehoods?

Seriously, Rev, you appear to be a nice guy, but someone's been selling you lies.

Dear Faith No More,
I believe without a shadow of a doubt that there is a Creator and He is Jesus Christ.

Let's see, you claim Jesus Christ was born 2014 years ago. Is the universe less than 2014 years old? What manner of deviltry is this?

[popeyespappy]

What do you think?

Come on Chuck. Don't ask the Rev to think. He might hurt himself.

[Chas]

WE have been duped?

At least I read books. By the looks of it, you don't. Except for one, which honestly doesn't count as something conducive to knowledge.

Since when is intelligence or knowledge correlated to the amount of books one reads?

Reading books is a proven method for increasing one's knowledge; the quality of those books correlates with intelligence.

You really are a fucking ignoramus.

[Lemonvariable72]

Dear Faith No More,
I believe without a shadow of a doubt that there is a Creator and He is Jesus Christ.

Let's see, you claim Jesus Christ was born 2014 years ago. Is the universe less than 2014 years old? What manner of deviltry is this?

Remember jesus is god . So therefore god impregnated mary himself with himself so that he sacrifice himself to appease himself.

[Esquilax]

Remember jeus is god . So therefore go impregnated mary himself with himself so that he sacrifice himself to appease himself.

That makes sense, but evolution? The idea that animals might breed and that the resulting offspring might be different, a process confirmed every time children are born that aren't clones of their parents?

Madness!

[Minimalist]

However, we can contemplate what each other has to offer.

You have nothing to offer except silly ancient shit. Grow up. Time to join the 21st century.

[Lemonvariable72]

Remember jeus is god . So therefore go impregnated mary himself with himself so that he sacrifice himself to appease himself.

That makes sense, but evolution? The idea that animals might breed and that the resulting offspring might be different, a process confirmed every time children are born that aren't clones of their parents?

Madness!

Dear Jesus I need to proof read more.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

However, we can contemplate what each other has to offer.

You have nothing to offer except silly ancient shit. Grow up. Time to join the 21st century.

You're asking too much. Let's work on getting Rev up to the 14th century and see how that goes...

Boru