OMG Guns Everywhere

[Hoopington]

Guns are still worse.

Not always. A small caliber handgun is less likely to inflict a fatal wound than an eight-inch hunting knife.

According to who??

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Pistols, Machine Guns, all the kinds, theyre all legal

As they should be. It's a right you know?

In your country may be.

What I find truly staggering is, that by allowing this "open carry" law, the local governments are basically admitting that they have no control over local law enforcement.

Your government cannot do their most basic of remits, to protect you. The worst of it is that because you get to carry a gun and feel like a cowboy in the wild west, some of you seem to have totally missed the point.

You've gone back nearly 200 years, but you get to carry a gun.

[Chas]

Not always. A small caliber handgun is less likely to inflict a fatal wound than an eight-inch hunting knife.

According to who??

According to me. I have experience with the effects of both.

[Hoopington]

According to who??

According to me. I have experience with the effects of both.

As do I, and I call bollocks.

[Brakeman]

According to me. I have experience with the effects of both.

As do I, and I call bollocks.

I'd say it depends. I personally have been shot with a 22 long rifle and the damage to my leg was less than you would expect a stabbing with a hunting knife assuming a "to the hilt" thrust. but as the bullet hit bone and deflected to the inside, a knife might have just stopped, doing even less damage. So even in my personal experience I'd still have to say it depends on the particulars.

[KUSA]

Your government cannot do their most basic of remits, to protect you.

My government protect me? Unless the cop to civilian ratio is one to one and I have coverage by them 24/7 its never going to happen.

Besides the supreme court ruled that the police do not have a constitutional duty to protect anyone.

I protect myself. Always have always will.

[Coffee Jesus]

Besides the supreme court ruled that the police do not have a constitutional duty to protect anyone.

It's still their job. If you don't do your job, you get fired.

[popeyespappy]

Obviously you've never read up on the case that resulted in that particular decision.

[Chas]

Besides the supreme court ruled that the police do not have a constitutional duty to protect anyone.

It's still their job. If you don't do your job, you get fired.

No, it's not their job. That's what the SCOTUS decision means.

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According to me. I have experience with the effects of both.

As do I, and I call bollocks.

Anywhere on the body a .22LR can kill you, an 8" blade will, too. Not vice versa.

[Cato]

Anywhere on the body a .22LR can kill you, an 8" blade will, too. Not vice versa.

Perhaps, but an 8" blade is harmless from any distance greater than about four feet from the wielder. I think this consideration makes your claim insignificant.

[Chas]

Anywhere on the body a .22LR can kill you, an 8" blade will, too. Not vice versa.

Perhaps, but an 8" blade is harmless from any distance greater than about four feet from the wielder. I think this consideration makes your claim insignificant.

Farther than that. An attacker can close a distance of 21 ft. in 1.5 sec. - the time it takes to draw a firearm and fire two shots.

This is known as "The 21-foot Rule". However, the latest analysis says that it should be an even greater distance.

Research by Dr. Bill Lewinski of The Force Science Research Center and Dr. Marvin Fackler has repeatedly shown that officer reaction times are significantly longer than commonly believed.

Now consider that the officers on the Calibre tape knew where the suspect was, what he was armed with, and that he was about to charge. On the tape, the suspect begins to move and the officer begins to draw. That eliminates the real-world delays of perceiving the threat and then making the decision to defend with gunfire.

The Force Science Research Center has shown that it takes the average officer about half a second to perceive a threat and approximately another half second to decide what to do about it. All of this has to happen before the officer begins his or her draw stroke. What this means is that with the threat closing at seven feet per half second, we are closer to a 35-foot rule.

And it is extremely difficult to smoothly draw and accurately fire when under a life-threatening attack. So that means that we had better add another 10 feet to allow for the attacker to keep coming if we miss center mass or even if we hit him, even mortally wound him, and he doesn't go down.

It's now the 45-foot rule.