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RE: Atheists choose hell
April 27, 2014 at 5:32 pm
(April 27, 2014 at 5:27 pm)GalacticBusDriver Wrote: (April 27, 2014 at 5:24 pm)Stephanie Wrote: Okay so you choose hell. What is the argument? I simply ask you reconsider your choice.
Prove your view. You're the ones presenting this viewpoint to a prominatly religious world.
Quit shifting the burden of proof. You make the claim, you get to prove it.
Religion far precedes this modern day form of "atheism".
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RE: Atheists choose hell
April 27, 2014 at 5:32 pm
(April 27, 2014 at 5:31 pm)Stephanie Wrote: (April 27, 2014 at 5:26 pm)Losty Wrote: And your god created them knowing full well what they would become. Either you create people knowing they won't believe because you want to burn them or you don't fucking create them.
Or because he wanted THEM to make the choice.
Either he already knew they wouldn't or he isn't all knowing
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RE: Atheists choose hell
April 27, 2014 at 5:33 pm
(April 27, 2014 at 5:30 pm)Stephanie Wrote: (April 27, 2014 at 5:26 pm)FlyingNarwhal Wrote: Why does his choice matter to you Cuntface?
The final resort of an atheist, reduced to name calling. No wonder I've NEVER seen an atheist win a debate against a theist, regardless of their education.
And I don't want him to burn in hell without realizing he's choosing to.
Further lies.
Many debates have been won, hands down, by the atheist involved. Either you're not watching the right debates or you're watching them through god-glasses.
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RE: Atheists choose hell
April 27, 2014 at 5:33 pm
(April 27, 2014 at 5:29 pm)ManMachine Wrote: (April 27, 2014 at 5:17 pm)Stephanie Wrote: Knowledge is a weapon from Satan that he attempts to use to detract from our purpose on this planet.
"I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things." Isaiah 45:7
Your bible tell us that god is responsible for creating everything, even evil. So that Satan story is just dishonest. What sort of god would make his believers lie in his name?
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RE: Atheists choose hell
April 27, 2014 at 5:33 pm
(April 27, 2014 at 5:32 pm)Stephanie Wrote: (April 27, 2014 at 5:27 pm)GalacticBusDriver Wrote: Quit shifting the burden of proof. You make the claim, you get to prove it.
Religion far precedes this modern day form of "atheism".
No, everyone is born atheist.
The god concept has to be taught.
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RE: Atheists choose hell
April 27, 2014 at 5:33 pm
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(April 27, 2014 at 5:29 pm)Confused Ape Wrote: (April 27, 2014 at 5:13 pm)Stephanie Wrote: No because Moses opened his heart already to God.
According to the Bible Moses married the daughter of a Midianite priest.
Midian Biblical References
Quote:Cozbi, daughter of the Midianite chief Zur, was speared by Phinehas together with Zimri. Zimri was the son of a Simeonite chief, while Cozbi was a Midianite woman taken into his family by Zimri.[9] The Midianite women's seductions of Israelites to their idol Baal-phegor is stated as the cause of offense to God; they were racially akin to the Israelites as descendants of Abraham, and Moses own wife Zipporah was Midianite
Soon after, God instructs Moses to collect an army and destroy Midian.[10] The Israelites kill every Midianite male including Zur and four other named chiefs, and every woman who has slept with a man (Book of Numbers 31:17), but share out 32,000 girls who have never slept with a man as plunder (Book of Numbers 31:35).
This indicates that the Midianites didn't worship God. Moses was brought up in the Egyptian court, fled to Midian after killing an Egyptian and was there for 40 years before the burning bush incident. Where and when did Moses hear of God so he could open his heart to him?
He must have knew it already in his heart.
(April 27, 2014 at 5:31 pm)GalacticBusDriver Wrote: (April 27, 2014 at 5:29 pm)Stephanie Wrote: Because my parents have both seen and spoken to Him.
Really? They've actually seen him? Book signing? Celebrity event? C'mom. inquiring minds want to know!
He only appears to the true believer. Not publicly. That would violate free will.
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RE: Atheists choose hell
April 27, 2014 at 5:35 pm
(April 27, 2014 at 5:30 pm)Stephanie Wrote: (April 27, 2014 at 5:26 pm)FlyingNarwhal Wrote: Why does his choice matter to you Cuntface?
The final resort of an atheist, reduced to name calling. No wonder I've NEVER seen an atheist win a debate against a theist, regardless of their education.
The final resort of a theist. Avoiding the question. No wonder I've never seen a theist win a debate against an atheist, regardless of their education. They never answer the questions put to them!
Case in point:
You got any EVIDENCE to support your particular sky fairy?!?
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RE: Atheists choose hell
April 27, 2014 at 5:35 pm
(April 27, 2014 at 5:32 pm)Stephanie Wrote: Religion far precedes this modern day form of "atheism".
Yes, that is a given. Primitive man created a god-concept to explain to himself (fill in the gaps of knowledge) how he and the world around him originated.
Atheism arose because mankind stopped resorting to the unreasonable god did it syndrome.
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RE: Atheists choose hell
April 27, 2014 at 5:35 pm
(April 27, 2014 at 5:33 pm)Stephanie Wrote: (April 27, 2014 at 5:29 pm)ManMachine Wrote: "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things." Isaiah 45:7
Your bible tell us that god is responsible for creating everything, even evil. So that Satan story is just dishonest. What sort of god would make his believers lie in his name?
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He created it all, but humanity is allowed to use it as they please.
It really begs the question, why create it then?
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RE: Atheists choose hell
April 27, 2014 at 5:35 pm
(April 27, 2014 at 5:31 pm)Losty Wrote: (April 27, 2014 at 5:24 pm)Stephanie Wrote: Okay so you choose hell. What is the argument? I simply ask you reconsider your choice. Do you know anything about this "loving" god you're promoting? Have you even read the babble? Oops I mean bible
Quote:Prove your view. You're the ones presenting this viewpoint to a prominatly religious world.
No I do not try to convert people. I could give a shit less what you believe. But if you want me to believe in your god you will have to prove it is real.
I wish for you not to choose hell. Please reconsider your views.
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