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Argument #2: Evolution Of Species

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Argument #2: Evolution Of Species
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RE: Argument #2: Evolution Of Species
May 7, 2014 at 12:30 am
We can always point a gun to their heads to make them participate. Problem is that I don't like guns.
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RE: Argument #2: Evolution Of Species
May 7, 2014 at 12:34 am
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RE: Argument #2: Evolution Of Species
May 7, 2014 at 12:35 am
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RE: Argument #2: Evolution Of Species
May 7, 2014 at 12:41 am
(May 7, 2014 at 12:35 am)Revelation777 Wrote:
(May 7, 2014 at 12:34 am)Esquilax Wrote: Weren't you saying earlier that all those scientists who believe in creation are being bullied into silence by the Great Evolution Conspiracy? Thinking

Which is it, Rev? You can't have it both ways.

They found a safe harbor.

I think you mean that, because they had no evidence for their beliefs, nothing testable or falsifiable and hence couldn't publish their ridiculous fantasies in mainstream publications, they split off and made up their own journal in a transparent attempt to paint a veneer of respectability over the things that they still have no evidence for, nor interest in performing tests.

Because I looked it up, you know. Dodgy
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RE: Argument #2: Evolution Of Species
May 7, 2014 at 1:06 am (This post was last modified: May 7, 2014 at 1:11 am by The Valkyrie.)

Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni:

"You did WHAT?  With WHO?  WHERE???"
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RE: Argument #2: Evolution Of Species
May 7, 2014 at 4:50 am (This post was last modified: May 7, 2014 at 5:03 am by Confused Ape.)
Badger Badger Badger Badger Where are the snake and mushroom smilies?
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RE: Argument #2: Evolution Of Species
May 7, 2014 at 6:38 am
(May 6, 2014 at 11:19 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: Ahh, but God has chosen even a fool as I to confound the wise.
"But God has chosen the foolish things of the world to put to shame the wise, and God has chosen the weak things of the world to put to shame the things which are mighty" I Cor 1:27
That's one of the insidious things about the Bible, the way many writers helped its followers to shield themselves from considerations that might cause them to doubt. If it seems that god is not active, Peter warns us that he's just "patient." If you are stumped by information and evidence that contradict what you believe, it's just the "wisdom of the world" which can't stand up to god's... mysteriousness, I guess, since Paul doesn't explain just why god chose the weak and foolish to "shame" the mighty and wise. But it's enough to get you to dismiss anything that might make you doubt. To the extent that you refuse to respond to the charge that the quote you built your case upon is blatantly out-of-context and dishonest.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."

-Stephen Jay Gould
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RE: Argument #2: Evolution Of Species
May 7, 2014 at 8:09 am
(May 7, 2014 at 6:38 am)Tonus Wrote:
(May 6, 2014 at 11:19 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: Ahh, but God has chosen even a fool as I to confound the wise.
"But God has chosen the foolish things of the world to put to shame the wise, and God has chosen the weak things of the world to put to shame the things which are mighty" I Cor 1:27
That's one of the insidious things about the Bible, the way many writers helped its followers to shield themselves from considerations that might cause them to doubt. If it seems that god is not active, Peter warns us that he's just "patient." If you are stumped by information and evidence that contradict what you believe, it's just the "wisdom of the world" which can't stand up to god's... mysteriousness, I guess, since Paul doesn't explain just why god chose the weak and foolish to "shame" the mighty and wise. But it's enough to get you to dismiss anything that might make you doubt. To the extent that you refuse to respond to the charge that the quote you built your case upon is blatantly out-of-context and dishonest.

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RE: Argument #2: Evolution Of Species
May 7, 2014 at 8:28 am
So are you just done with even the pretense of taking this seriously, Rev?
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RE: Argument #2: Evolution Of Species
May 7, 2014 at 8:30 am
The amusing thing is that Rev's choice of emoticon serves to buttress Tonus' argument.
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