Star Wars

[Bad Writer]

My favourite scene in any Star Wars film was when they opened the Ark and all the Nazis melted.

THAT was mad cool.

Boru

That was Star Trek.

Someone revoke his geek card, wouldya?

Um...Star Trek would never sink so low as to allow religious artifacts to actually exert any supernatural influence on the natural world. Harrumph.

[pocaracas]

Actually, I think that would have made less believable...
Would you build your awesome new Death Star, requiring an externally generated shield, near a planet inhabited by wookies? Or by Ewoks?

I wouldn't - were I the Empire, I wouldn't build the damn thing near any living witnesses that weren't firmly in my grasp. Then again, I don't believe that a bunch of primitive Ewoks could defeat stormtroopers, either.

A movie like this - you have to suspend disbelief. I'm not saying it would be believable, but Wookies running amok and rippin' out stormtropper arms would be unbelievably *entertaining*.

In short, I would have written a script that didn't suck, were I George.

I would have made the ship-yard close to a few star destroyers.... who needs shields, when you have a cluster of ships defending you!
Also, I'd do it deep in romulan space... no one from the Federation would come snooping.

[Aractus]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7WjLT6XnqY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDJ-v73H_pw

[Clueless Morgan]

I suppose I'm more of a casual fan and not a die hard one.

Same here.

I'm a casual fan but was introduced to the extended canon by a coworker who was an uber-fan; I think he had a podcast that he and a friend of his did where they reviewed the books. I am offended on behalf of him and the other super fans when Lucas monkeys with the films.

George Lucas needs to stop fucking with Star Wars. This constant updating and "fixing" shit needs to stop.

I appreciated some of the "fixes" that Lucas did when he went through and updated some of the scenes back when he first did it; when he fixed the smudging out the wheels on Luke's speeder and CGIing windows in Cloud City and a couple things like that because it added ambiance or updated what they couldn't do with SFX in the 70s.

But I'm largely on board with the "stop fucking with them" crowd, especially when they CGI'd Hayden Christensen into RotJ as Anaken.

That being said, I do not have high hopes for the new movie, and the prequels have left me bitter. Unless I'm really wowed by previews, I probably won't see it.

I'll see them in theaters once, not on opening weekend, though.

[Anomalocaris]

My favourite scene in any Star Wars film was when they opened the Ark and all the Nazis melted.

THAT was mad cool.

Boru

My My favourite scene in any Star Wars film is the end credits that rolls on after I stood up and left.

[Cyberman]

"Fully operational" from a certain point of view, one would surmise.

If it needed a ground-based shield, it's safe to presume it couldn't leave orbit.

If the Emperor is stupid enough to call that wreck "fully operational", he's stupid enough to build it next to a planet full of Wookies.

QED.

You're all overlooking one thing.

"It's a trap!"

[Faith No More]

I appreciated some of the "fixes" that Lucas did when he went through and updated some of the scenes back when he first did it; when he fixed the smudging out the wheels on Luke's speeder and CGIing windows in Cloud City and a couple things like that because it added ambiance or updated what they couldn't do with SFX in the 70s.

Those blemishes are part of the original work of art, and tampering with that changes the original artistic statement. Imagine if J.K. Rowling went through the Harry Potter books and started changing the language that she decided could have been done better.

[pocaracas]

I appreciated some of the "fixes" that Lucas did when he went through and updated some of the scenes back when he first did it; when he fixed the smudging out the wheels on Luke's speeder and CGIing windows in Cloud City and a couple things like that because it added ambiance or updated what they couldn't do with SFX in the 70s.

Those blemishes are part of the original work of art, and tampering with that changes the original artistic statement. Imagine if J.K. Rowling went through the Harry Potter books and started changing the language that she decided could have been done better.

Imagine "The Sound of Music", remastered and reworked, to have all the kids the original author really wanted to have: 30!

[Clueless Morgan]

I appreciated some of the "fixes" that Lucas did when he went through and updated some of the scenes back when he first did it; when he fixed the smudging out the wheels on Luke's speeder and CGIing windows in Cloud City and a couple things like that because it added ambiance or updated what they couldn't do with SFX in the 70s.

Those blemishes are part of the original work of art, and tampering with that changes the original artistic statement. Imagine if J.K. Rowling went through the Harry Potter books and started changing the language that she decided could have been done better.

I honestly don't know if I would notice if JKR did that. It would have to be REALLY conspicuous, like changing "Lord Voldemort is the most evil wizard who ever lived" to "Lord Voldemort is the epitome of sunshine, rainbows and all that it lovely."

And watching the Original versus (the first) remastering of SW, for most of the movie I probably wouldn't be able to tell you which one I was watching. There are a couple places where it's obvious (where they CGI'd in alien animals or extended the yeti scene in ESB) but for 90+% I wouldn't be able to tell.

And, besides, authors do edit their books as further editions are released, as JKR did with her books as more editions were released and the later books were finished:
http://www.hp-lexicon.org/about/books/differences.html

Original (First edition)
"I'll be takin' Sirius his bike back."
Future editions (after revision)
"I best get this bike away."
Reason for the change:
This sentence didn't fit very well with the way the character of Sirius was developed as the series progressed.

Original (First edition)
"Dragon liver, seventeen Sickles an ounce, they're mad..."
Future editions (after revision)
"Dragon liver, sixteen Sickles an ounce, they're mad..."
Reason for the change:
Seventeen sickles actually equals one Galleon, so it is unlikely that someone would refer to a price in that way. They would have said "One Galleon."

Original (First edition)
Harry noticed a shiny silver badge on his chest with the letter P on it.
Future editions (after revision)
Harry noticed a red and gold badge on his chest with the letter P on it.
Reason for the change:
In book five, Harry sees the badge which Ron and Hermione get when they become Prefects. It is described as red and gold, and Harry realizes that it's exactly the same as the one he saw on Percy several years before. So the text is now changed in book one to make the badges identical.

Original (First edition)
"I haven't eaten in nearly four hundred years," said the ghost...
Future editions (after revision)
"I haven't eaten in nearly five hundred years," said the ghost...
Reason for the change:
This change brings the years that Nick has been dead in the first book in line with the fact that the next year he celebrates his 500th Deathday

Original (First edition)
Harry, who was lookin up "Dittany" in One Hundred Magical Herbs and Fungi...
Future editions (after revision)
Harry, who was lookin up "Dittany" in One Thousand Magical Herbs and Fungi...
Reason for the change:
The title of the book, according to the booklist from chapter five, is One Thousand... This edit fixes the typo. This error is only found in the British version of the book. The US version is already correct.

As well as all the differences made between the British and American versions of the books, and Americanizing them so the huge American market would be able to understand them.

So if your argument is "book authors don't do it, so Lucas shouldn't do it!" then your argument falls apart because book authors, especially authors of series books, do change their books.

[Faith No More]

So if your argument is "book authors don't do it, so Lucas shouldn't do it!" then your argument falls apart because book authors, especially authors of series books, do change their books.

No, I merely mentioned it as an example from a contrasting media. My argument is that when an artist creates a finished product, it needs to stay finished, and using hindsight to change art dilutes its artistic integrity. Creating art is about using your current mindset to create, and coming back to it later on in a different mindset ruins your original artistic statement.