Marriage discrimination struck down in Arkansas.

[kılıç_mehmet]

[Ryantology]

I really have no time to explain my position on this "marriage equality" bullcrap.
I merely have stated that this "marriage" that they are proposing is not even marriage.

Fine, then. Don't worry about it. If marriage equality came to your country, it wouldn't actually have any effect on you anyway.

Its merely another ploy of the liberal, rootless cosmopolitan mindset to redefine social institutions and traditions. Lets re-define everything to suit the purposes of minorities.
Sounds to me like the dictatorship of minorities such as the homosexuals over the majority of normal people.

Yeah, it's so terrible to, uh, do what? Demand the recognition of equal rights that our country's Constitution guarantees? That's an important point in this debate in America, the point everybody on the wrong side of this debate seems to ignore: this sort of discrimination has been illegal since the passage of the 14th amendment 150 years ago. These state-level bans were never legal to begin with. If you want to legally deny millions of people their equal rights, you have to put a Constitutional amendment to vote, to overturn the 14th amendment. Then, you can legally put state-level bans to a vote.

Good luck.

It doesn't really matter, anyway. By the end of this decade, only the most deeply-inbred states won't have majority support for it anyway. For all this panty-shitting going on about activist judges, they are only accelerating the inevitable by a handful of years.

[Kitan Etos]

However, I don't think that such a hypothetical case will ever be reality.

Legalization of same-sex marriage is a reality, whether you want to accept it or not.

However the fact is, that they have been centered on the concept of a union between a man and a woman....it will be related to the same concept involving a man and a woman.

Stating only one man and one woman is a tactful extension of one's bigotry.

[Chas]

They actually struck down Marriage itself, yet know not what they do.
Poor dumb bastards.

No, they didn't, you dumb fuck.

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The first state in the country to recognize marriage equality in America has, by far, the lowest divorce rate in America, and it has only gone down in the ten years since that happened. Most of the states which have marriage equality today are states which are in the bottom-half in divorce ratings. 7 of the 10 states with the lowest divorce rates recognize marriage equality.

To put it mildly, you're full of shit.

I really have no time to explain my position on this "marriage equality" bullcrap.
I merely have stated that this "marriage" that they are proposing is not even marriage.
Its merely another ploy of the liberal, rootless cosmopolitan mindset to redefine social institutions and traditions. Lets re-define everything to suit the purposes of minorities.
Sounds to me like the dictatorship of minorities such as the homosexuals over the majority of normal people.

Marriage equality has no effect on you or on your rights, you dumb fuck.

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Mehmet you said that traditions change via majority consensus. Therefore if the majority (straight people I assume) decide that gay marriage is fine with them, then by your standards is gay marriage acceptable?

Just curious.

Well, in such a hypothetical case, acceptablility would not be my call, that's what I'm saying. However, that would mean that the majority would have to invent new traditions, which would need to take hold over certain generations. Traditions do not change overnight, especially traditions concerning marriage, having been shaped by centuries.
They form the basis of social institutions that constitute the pillars of society.

However, I don't think that such a hypothetical case will ever be reality, as what you're advocating here is, in my opinion, quite radically opposed to the traditions that define marriage, and therefore society, you'd need to destroy these traditions completely to actually redifine the concept of marriage in the majority's mind.

Marriage equality does not affect others' traditions. Your argument is nonsense.

[The Valkyrie]

[SteelCurtain]

If we can change our attitudes on those, why is marriage such a sticking point?

Because, ewww.

[Elskidor]

Mehmet you said that traditions change via majority consensus. Therefore if the majority (straight people I assume) decide that gay marriage is fine with them, then by your standards is gay marriage acceptable?

Just curious.

In the states the majority already approve of same sex marriage, and have for a bit now. We are just waiting for the ruling, and some of the states are more stubborn about accepting change than others.

[Ryantology]

If we can change our attitudes on those, why is marriage such a sticking point?

Because, ewww.

Ladies and germs, we present: the only honest argument against marriage equality that has ever been put forth.

[FlyingNarwhal]

[Elskidor]

It kinda skyrocketed in the pro-support direction after 2011. I'm surprised it's still be argued as if it is still an issue in the states...at this point the die hard anti folk are just fighting against the inevitable. It's kinda like Christians fighting against the evil Athiests. They can try to hold them back, but the battle is lost.They are coming....hide your kids and hide your wives..they are bleeping everyone out here!