FN wins EU elections in France

[kılıç_mehmet]

Look at this. I have told you, European countries are experiencing nationalist revivals. This is merely the beginning, the far-right is gaining more and more momentum with each passing day.
Le Pen also proposed the dissolution of the parliament.
This, I believe is going to herald a new era. People are sick of the mainstream "centre-X" parties that have screwed up, and instead are voting in favor of nationalism, anti-globalism, social conservatism, traditionalism and anti-immigration policies.
Of course, the left has ignored all of these until recently, and laid back, using the media and false intelligentsia to viciously attack any surfacing nationalist movements as neo-fascists, as to create antipathy for the far-right.

But it does not work anymore. The left is unresponsive to the problems that are experienced in European countries today, such as the ageing population, the dissolution of traditional values, destruction of native culture, the fracturing of society into marginal groups, and the growing reaction towards immigration.
EU-skepticism will define European politics from now on.
You mark my words.

[Napoléon]

I have to agree with your assessment Mehmet. UKIP in Britain just did very well in the council elections, it's been coming for a long time.

[kılıç_mehmet]

Well, I'm sure that this will also make an impact around here. The centre-left and centre-right parties are now experiencing the same thing, especially with the latest mine disaster, and chaotic mobs walking the streets, clashing with the police. Regular people are sick of this, they'll looking for alternatives, and we present them more than an alternative. We present them with idealism, not pragmatism, and cheap-populism has long served its due.

The fact is, that the current political climate in EU is only concerned with going through the day, they give out daily explanations for their shortcomings, and fail to present any long term solutions.
The EU has failed. It does nothing more than to further anger the people.
The mainstream media on the other hand tries to discredit the success of the far-right as taking advantage of the economic crisis, but this actually shows their own shortcomings.

It simply shows how the centre parties have looked at their own citizens, meaning, only as a source of votes and a source of taxes. Feed them enough money, and they're happy. Take away the money, and they're unhappy, they won't vote for them. They'll instead go to the parties that present them with more than just the promise of money, parties with a true ideal, and a solid worldview. Meaning, the centre parties actually bought the votes of the people, but they never won over their hearts and minds.

Immigration is another issue.
Immigration has now reached a critical point in where the left-oriented parties are actually more concerned with the well-being of immigrants than the native citizens of the country,
and people are starting to dislike this, with good reason.
They promote diversity, but no one knows why. What good it serves is also not known. The fact is, the left is in need of the minority votes to win elections, which is why they can actually do something that perhaps infringes on the national rights of the majority but is seemingly favorable for minorities.
Minorities, as they instinctively promote their own interests, vote for parties that promise to uphold their interests.
The native populations on the other hand are not happy with this.
In Sweden, this is generating a more pronounced backlash, and let me tell you, if this continues, it will come to major clashes.
Things like the London riots, where the government was rather unresponsive, mainly doing nothing more than just condemn it via words, rather than punitive action, the people had enough.
Similar riots also happened in France, again, no government control. The European countries are powerless against minority events, and seek only to quell them via material promises, bound to the whims and fancies of the minorities and their leftist representatives.

[Autumnlicious]

But its mandate to exercise those powers was dented by the low turnout of roughly 43%, raising renewed questions about the parliament's legitimacy.

Don't show up to vote, then the nut jobs will reign supreme.

Voting should be mandatory under the law so if we do see things like this, it is definitively the will of the people.

[kılıç_mehmet]

But its mandate to exercise those powers was dented by the low turnout of roughly 43%, raising renewed questions about the parliament's legitimacy.

Don't show up to vote, then the nut jobs will reign supreme.

Voting should be mandatory under the law so if we do see things like this, it is definitively the will of the people.

Voting is mandatory under law.
It is here, as you'll receive a fine for not showing up if you are registered as a voter.

I personally think that this has nothing to do with people not voting.

[Napoléon]

Don't show up to vote, then the nut jobs will reign supreme.

Voting should be mandatory under the law so if we do see things like this, it is definitively the will of the people.

This is the same line of thinking as "if you don't vote you have no right to complain".

Such bullshit.

Why should you be forced to vote for a party you don't believe in or want to vote for. If none of the candidates stand for principles you can get behind then you should have every right not to vote. Forcing people to vote goes against the whole fucking concept of democracy and freedom for fucks sake.

[pocaracas]

Don't show up to vote, then the nut jobs will reign supreme.

Voting should be mandatory under the law so if we do see things like this, it is definitively the will of the people.

This is the same line of thinking as "if you don't vote you have no right to complain".

Such bullshit.

Why should you be forced to vote for a party you don't believe in or want to vote for. If none of the candidates stand for principles you can get behind then you should have every right not to vote. Forcing people to vote goes against the whole fucking concept of democracy and freedom for fucks sake.

You can vote, but leave it blank. We call that a "blank vote", which should count for something, but the system usually doesn't care....

[Anomalocaris]

Don't show up to vote, then the nut jobs will reign supreme.

Voting should be mandatory under the law so if we do see things like this, it is definitively the will of the people.

This is the same line of thinking as "if you don't vote you have no right to complain".

Such bullshit.

Why should you be forced to vote for a party you don't believe in or want to vote for. If none of the candidates stand for principles you can get behind then you should have every right not to vote. Forcing people to vote goes against the whole fucking concept of democracy and freedom for fucks sake.

Then you have perhaps the wrong concept of democracy.

Freedom for fuck sake may be a make belief principle design to increase its appeal to shallow ideologues. But making better decision is, at the bottom line, the only real justification for democracy. If democracy can't subordinate its alleged principles to the need to make better decisions, then it will be displaced.

[zebo-the-fat]

Don't show up to vote, then the nut jobs will reign supreme.

Voting should be mandatory under the law so if we do see things like this, it is definitively the will of the people.

This is the same line of thinking as "if you don't vote you have no right to complain".

Such bullshit.

Why should you be forced to vote for a party you don't believe in or want to vote for. If none of the candidates stand for principles you can get behind then you should have every right not to vote. Forcing people to vote goes against the whole fucking concept of democracy and freedom for fucks sake.

What is needed is a section under the candidates marked "None of the above" if that gets the most votes they have to go back and start again with policies that the public want.

[Creed of Heresy]

When I read the title of this thread, my first thought was "Wait, Fabrique Nationale won an election? How the fuck did THAT happen?"

I might be a gun nerd... ._.

But no, no, it's just another Kilic-rant about how everyone should homogenize and be close minded and continue to hold onto the past instead of living in the present and everyone should be racist and supremacist because violence and hatred and bigotry are terrific and breeds a bunch of nations hating each other and anyone not like them because that's going to be good for civilization and humanity as a whole, right?

Ho-hum, another day another dollar another waste of my time and eye-movements...