An unorthodox belief in God.

[Mystical]

Because the universe is a prototype of what is being prepared for us; for all the humans who have ever lived. god will revamp the entire universe and beyond into a spiritual universe, even larger than its physical prototype. Creating dazzling planets and multi universes , all for us; and the trillions of beings he has already created.

:rolls eyes: I've heard this a million times by now I'm sure!

have you ever read this per chance?

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/0312430027...ot_redir=1

if not, then this book would be right up your alley. Its a book written by a cultist.

[Thumpalumpacus]

Because the universe is a prototype of what is being prepared for us; for all the humans who have ever lived. god will revamp the entire universe and beyond into a spiritual universe, even larger than its physical prototype. Creating dazzling planets and multi universes , all for us; and the trillions of beings he has already created.

And you know this how? Do you actually think you know the mind of your Creator god?

I'm pretty sure I speak for a few others here when I say that argumentum ex culo doesn't cut ice.

Also, you should do your preaching elsewhere. Skeptics such as the membership here usually have "why" on the tips of their tongues. Best you be able to answer that, or get ready for ridicule.

[mickiel]

My source is the animals themselves

Yet more evidence! I'm struggling to keep up, you've really upped your game mickiel.

The game has just started; don't forget this, I will up it each day, until I am relived of duty.

[Rampant.A.I.]

Really? ? ?

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]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xp8Yp89aFAA&feature=youtube_gdata_player


http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/octo...claration/

Elephants cooperate to solve problems. Chimpanzees teach youngsters to make tools. Even octopuses seem to be able to plan. So should we humans really be surprised that “consciousness” probably does not only exist in us.

This privileged state of subjective awareness in fact goes well beyond Homo sapiens, according to the new Cambridge Declaration on Consciousness (pdf), which was signed last month by a group of cognitive neuroscientists, computational neuroscientists, neuroanatomists, neuropharmacologists, neurophysiologists who attended the Francis Crick Memorial Conference on Consciousness in Human and non-Human Animals at Cambridge University in the U.K.

I totally disagree with ever last one of those who signed that declaration, they are an embarrassment to realist; elephants, chimps and octo's are not conscious beings. Their animals, beasts; nothing more.

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That's an antiquated Cartesian view. Modern science disagrees with you.

I've pointed this out multiple times in this thread, which you have promptly ignored. Perhaps a video would help:





In September of 2012, a panel of leading Neuroscientists convened in Cambridge to announce scientific consensus that non-human animals are indeed conscious:





The Psychology Today article outlining the consensus:

http://m.psychologytoday.com/blog/animal...ous-beings

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[Mystical]

Animals are not conscious, they are instinctly aware.

You have a lot to learn.

Thankfully, teaching you is not my job.

Nope its Mine

[mickiel]

Because the universe is a prototype of what is being prepared for us; for all the humans who have ever lived. god will revamp the entire universe and beyond into a spiritual universe, even larger than its physical prototype. Creating dazzling planets and multi universes , all for us; and the trillions of beings he has already created.

:rolls eyes: I've heard this a million times by now I'm sure!

have you ever read this per chance?

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/0312430027...ot_redir=1

if not, then this book would be right up your alley. Its a book written by a cultist.

I hold no interest in cults.

[Anomalocaris]

You have a lot to learn.

Thankfully, teaching you is not my job.

Nope its Mine

Good luck teaching cognition to a lump of lard

[Mystical]

Yet more evidence! I'm struggling to keep up, you've really upped your game mickiel.

The game has just started; don't forget this, I will up it each day, until I am relived of duty.

s some one please put this in in hall of.. funny.. I can't breathe.

[mickiel]

Because the universe is a prototype of what is being prepared for us; for all the humans who have ever lived. god will revamp the entire universe and beyond into a spiritual universe, even larger than its physical prototype. Creating dazzling planets and multi universes , all for us; and the trillions of beings he has already created.

And you know this how? Do you actually think you know the mind of your Creator god?

I'm pretty sure I speak for a few others here when I say that argumentum ex culo doesn't cut ice.

Also, you should do your preaching elsewhere. Skeptics such as the membership here usually have "why" on the tips of their tongues. Best you be able to answer that, or get ready for ridicule.

I do not know god, never seen him or heard his voice, but I can read. The bible has definite clues. I am not a preacher, and I understand your desire for me to leave; I can be a headache on those who dare try and embarass me, instead of thinking with me.

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Nope its Mine

Good luck teaching cognition to a lump of lard

I am curious, why do you keep reading what a lump of lard has to say?

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I totally disagree with ever last one of those who signed that declaration, they are an embarrassment to realist; elephants, chimps and octo's are not conscious beings. Their animals, beasts; nothing more.

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Sure I have evidence, if I may use you and you're picture of a parrot; which is a prime example of consciousness, you or the bird?

The answer, as well as the evidence is academic.




I totally disagree with this shameful deception of professionals who signed that, they KNOW animals are not conscious.

Yes, we know you reject scientific knowledge when it disagrees with your religious belief system.

Do you have any supporting evidence of this assertion, or are you simply "nuh-uh"ing facts again due to the Dunning-Kreuger effect that leads you to believe your opinion outweighs the research of leading Neuroscientists worldwide?



Or is this yet another example of you proudly displaying your ignorance of scientific facts?

[Rampant.A.I.]

I am curious, why do you keep reading what a lump of lard has to say?

Same reason medieval houses hired court jesters.

It's entertaining to watch someone deliberately and proudly display their failures.