should america support Israel?

[shortbusgangsta3]

Israel had been the largest annual recipient of U.S. foreign assistance. According to a November 2001 Congressional Research Service report, Israel: U.S. Foreign Assistance, U.S. aid to Israel in the last half century has totaled a whopping $81.3 billion.
In 2008, up to 27th Dec., the home-made rockets that Hamas fired into Israel killedd no-one. In return the Israelis killed 400 children and 900 adults in Gaza.

I don't see how Israel has the right to kick the Palestinians off their farms, bulldoze their houses,  kick them out of their homeland and slaughter them.It is a nation that stole its land through military force. I hear so many evangelicals and fundamentalists claiming that we have to give money to Israel because the Bible says "bless israel and you shall be blessed, curse israel and you shall be cursed".  What a shitcrock!

Now the Palestinians are imprisoned in the shithole Gaza Strip and forced west as israelis keep expanding into the west bank.

  Without America (and others) funding Israel the nation wouldnt exist. 

[The Grand Nudger]

I think they'd still exist, they might have to make some hard choices though. Howsabout we split up the cash we funnel to israel 50/50 between israelis and palestinians?

[Mudhammam]

No. No. No. Money that should be going towards American health care and education is instead paying for Israeli weapons.

[Minimalist]

Absolutely not.

[shortbusgangsta3]

Israeli and Palestinian children killed


Israelis and Palestinians killed



Israelis and Palestinians injured.



Political Prisoners



Demolition of Israeli and Palestinian homes since 1967



Current Illegal Settlements

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The bible permits God's chosen people and nation Israel to commit genocide against the other nations. yes in the Old Testament, the Israelis repeatedly annihilated pagan cities or rather those who were not Jews.

  they were permitted to kill men women children and even the animals.so now evangelicals feel obliged to give a shit ton of money to Israel. they believe that by doing they will be blessed. All those billions of dollars that our government gave t to Israel does not include all the money given to Israel by those who embrace the Bible as the Word of God. 

which repeatedly justifies genocide against the enemies of Israel

[Minimalist]

the Israelis repeatedly annihilated pagan cities or rather those who were not Jews.

But that is just a bullshit story. It never happened just like the Death Star never really blew up Alderan.

This Israeli-Palestinian shit is actually happening. Big difference.

[bberryhill0]

We give nearly as much to Egypt. It's basically a subsidy for our arms manufacturers. How did their sand get over our oil anyways?!?

[Anomalocaris]

I think American support for both Israel and Egypt will gradually diminish regardless of the influence of Jewish lobby simply because Shale oil and gas, withdrawal from Iraq, and strategic pivot to contain china has made that part of the world increasingly less important to the economy, influence and the prestige of the United States.

[bberryhill0]

Shale wells really only produce for one year and take way too much water. Nice fantasy but it doesn't do anything for the long term. Saudi Arabia is running out of water. The pivot toward China means keeping them out of Africa and the Middle-East. We will be there forever. It's all about the military. We haven't stood down from WWII and can't afford to because our whole economy is dependent on war.

[Lek]

Today's Israel has nothing to do with the Israel of the Bible, which went out of existence in 70 AD. Our foreign policy towards Israel should be decided the way we decide any foreign policy - what is in the best interest of the US and the world. Of course it is in our interest to keep a friendly ally in that region, but we must continue to discourage unwarranted aggression as we have been.