The You Can't Make This Shit Up Department

[Jenny A]

This is what I study to pass one semester class, even lawyers have a hard time knowing all laws.

Imagine if you had to study all the cases prior to your bar exam?

Bravo, Jenny. Spot on with the Common Law stuff.

It was my profession. And if I'd had to memorize all the common law it wouldn't have been.

[Dystopia]

Imagine if you had to study all the cases prior to your bar exam?

Bravo, Jenny. Spot on with the Common Law stuff.

It was my profession. And if I'd had to memorize all the common law it wouldn't have been.

I believe it must have been though. I study cases too because jurisprudence has some power, but I spend most time solving fictional or real life cases on paper applying the law. But this really isn't about memorizing, I can take my codes and laws to exams of course, no one would ask us to memorize 2500 articles, it's more about knowing what each article means and what they regulated, where they apply, and the theories that support them.

[Jenny A]

I study cases too because jurisprudence has some power, but I spend most time solving fictional or real life cases on paper applying the law. But this really isn't about memorizing, I can take my codes and laws to exams of course, no one would ask us to memorize 2500 articles, it's more about knowing what each article means and what they regulated, where they apply, and the theories that support them.

Lucky! We don't get to take anything to bar exams but a pencil and our I.D. (We walked uphill in the snow both ways too). Seriously, it doesn't sound all that much different. Learning the basics of each area of law so you know where to begin to research it is what law school and the bar exams are all about.

We have an added twist you not be really aware of, or at least not aware of the importance of. That's that every U.S. State is a separate government. The substance of the law changes substantially as you move from state to state, though method of researching and applying it doesn't much. The exception is Louisiana which has civil law rather than common law much like most of Europe though case law still informs application of federal law there. Whether state or federal law applies, and occasionally which state's law applies is one of the very first questions you have to ask when deciding considering a legal question here.

[John V]

But some ideologies are a cause of danger as you said it. I guess it is hard for americans to understand some restrictions of freedom too, but this is how I see things. Sometimes too much freedom can be bad for you. And by making a reasonable interpretation of that article and conjugating it with other articles regarding let's say democracy and other important traits like freedom we could conclude some restrictions are allowed to preserve the common good.

Key words are "some" and "reasonable." I.e., who gets to decide which ideologies are a cause of danger, and what restrictions are reasonable. There are plenty of people on this very forum that think religion is dangerous, so I don't want them deciding. There are some theists that think atheism is dangerous, so atheists don't want those people deciding. In the end, everyone has biases, so we've decided it's safer for everyone to just allow it all.

[Mister Agenda]

We don't punish people for idiocy - even if we probably ought to.

Are you being serious? This is not idiocy, these ideologies are dangerous and can be propagated easily to volatile fragile influential minds. Why do you think former fascist countries made fascism and nazism illegal and invested so much on 300 articles constitutions with all rights described specifically? To prevent further disasters. Well some opinions are pure stupidity but there's a line between that and posing a danger. The proof of that is the rise of far right in europe, the so called nationalist parties that disguise themselves in cultural identities and nation values to hide their fascist heritage based on hate, racism and xenophobe, just check Marine Le Penn's comment comparing Muslims in france with Hitler's holocaust (it was funny but still highly racist) or her father making the anti-immigration comments advocating the death of all them trough the ebola virus

So we need a Bureau of Correct Opinion (or some other bureacracy to evaluate ideas and divide them into acceptable and unacceptable) to determine what ideologies American are allowed to hold? Do you really think that is the way to go?

I thought we had learned by now that some cures are worse than the disease they're supposed to fight.

[Jackalope]

So we need a Bureau of Correct Opinion (or some other bureacracy to evaluate ideas and divide them into acceptable and unacceptable) to determine what ideologies American are allowed to hold? Do you really think that is the way to go?

I thought we had learned by now that some cures are worse than the disease they're supposed to fight.

Indeed. Europe's approach forces Nazis (et al) underground to work in secrecy.

I'd rather shine a very bright light on the cockroaches so everyone can point and laugh.

[The Grand Nudger]

Amen, when you don't like what someone has to say - hand them the megaphone.

[Anomalocaris]

We don't punish people for idiocy - even if we probably ought to.

We just punish people who have to put up with idiots.

[Angrboda]

The item was sold through a third-party seller on our marketplace.

[Anomalocaris]

So we need a Bureau of Correct Opinion (or some other bureacracy to evaluate ideas and divide them into acceptable and unacceptable) to determine what ideologies American are allowed to hold? Do you really think that is the way to go?

I thought we had learned by now that some cures are worse than the disease they're supposed to fight.

Indeed. Europe's approach forces Nazis (et al) underground to work in secrecy.

I'd rather shine a very bright light on the cockroaches so everyone can point and laugh.

One could either indoctrinate before shinning the bright light on the cockroaches so people will know to point and laugh, or one could indoctrinate by not letting people see the possibility of cock roaches, either way a substantial amount of indoctrination is involved.