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China treating Uighur Muslims like Tibetans?
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China treating Uighur Muslims like Tibetans?
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China will destroy all people who are considered a threat to their current regime, the uighur muslims is just another example. The chinese aren't very fond of religion anyway
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And yet, if China intervened in a foreign war on the side of Muslims (vs. anyone else) I bet they suffer reprisals anyhow. Either for backing the wrong Muslim sect, or not backing the right one with sufficient vigor, or appearing to be weak by throwing in their support (as tribute?) and inadvertently appearing even more amenable to coercion via terrorism.

(I don't have anything against Uighurs, BTW, never heard of them till a couple years ago, but wariness inre another stripe of Islam isn't exactly paranoia anymore)
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I'd imagine China being sided with Russian if a conflict existed, but they don't really seem interested, China needs both Russia and the USA for their GDP growth, they establish commercial relations with both. Russia has good relationships with Arab countries, but still that doesn't mean China would side up with them or against them, the Chinese are the kind who usually want what's best for their business, and their capitalism disguised as apparent communism/Maoism
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(July 14, 2014 at 6:12 am)Blackout Wrote: ... China needs both Russia and the USA for their GDP growth, they establish commercial relations with both... the Chinese are the kind who usually want what's best for their business, and their capitalism disguised as apparent communism/Maoism
Yes but China will soon reach a point of military supremacy over the US and then all bets are off. Why continue to trade if you can just take what you want?

Turkish Islamist leader Erdogan once said: democracy is a train ride, we get off when we reach our destination (i.e. Islamic theocracy). China thinks the same: trade is a means to build up military supremacy and then they can just rule with an iron fist.

Deng Xiaoping's maxim: "Hide Your Strength, Bide Your Time." Remember, it's the Chinese who gave us The Art of War. All their actions are geared towards "comprehensive national power". They are infinitely more dangerous to world freedom than Islam (although Muslim with nukes are a real threat too).
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Because trade is superior to seizure by armed force in almost all situations.
If you read the Art of War you'd know that.
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(July 14, 2014 at 8:06 am)mralstoner Wrote: Yes but China will soon reach a point of military supremacy over the US and then all bets are off. Why continue to trade if you can just take what you want?
Sweet sweet irony. Isn't that questioned easily answered by way of examining american history? It's far easier to trade for what you want than it is to take it. If the other guy wants to make shoes for pennies on the dollar, by god, you let him make shoes (see: China). Also, it's a bit pointless to talk about chinese military supremacy until they've gotten their boots dirty. As densely stacked as china is, our bombs are gonna give us a hell of alot more roi than theirs might(kidding - sort of). The only way that China is going to find itself on par with the US militarily is by becoming the US. That's the kind of victory that no amount of bullets or grunts can achieve. IOW, calm down, the sky isn't falling.
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OP, you are miss-spelling "Uglier". So, the uglier muslims are being persecuted? That's a damn shame. Perhaps that's why they wear veils so no-one will know.
It's not immoral to eat meat, abort a fetus or love someone of the same sex...I think that about covers it
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(July 14, 2014 at 8:06 am)mralstoner Wrote: Yes but China will soon reach a point of military supremacy over the US and then all bets are off. Why continue to trade if you can just take what you want?

The soon is in 30 - 50 years at the minimum.


(July 14, 2014 at 8:06 am)mralstoner Wrote: China thinks the same: trade is a means to build up military supremacy and then they can just rule with an iron fist.?

China had military supremacy over east asia during more than two thirds of the last 2000 years. It never ruled, much less with any iron fist outside of its borders.

(July 14, 2014 at 8:06 am)mralstoner Wrote: Deng Xiaoping's maxim: "Hide Your Strength, Bide Your Time." Remember, it's the Chinese who gave us The Art of War. All their actions are geared towards "comprehensive national power". They are infinitely more dangerous to world freedom than Islam (although Muslim with nukes are a real threat too).

Based on what?
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I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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