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[quote='whateverist' pid='708741' dateline='1405402889']
1. How is the method by which you became a Christian reliable?
Based on the Truth of the Bible, my own personal experiences, and the experiences of the dramatically changed lives of others makes it a no brainer that this is God and His Word is Truth
2. Apart from church dogma, how can you know what happens when we die?
It is what God's Word says about what happens after you die.
3. What if you and your silly bible are wrong and there is no heaven, hell or afterlife of any kind?
What if your wrong? God is never wrong neither is His Word so the question asks an impossible scenario.
4. If you are God's unthinking lacky, how can you call yourself moral? Do you really think morality is simply a question of rule following?
God placed His Son's perfect righteousness on those whom believe in Christ.
5. Even if there is a God, you are obviously free to do what you want. The prisons are full of Christians. Do you or do you not believe God gave man free will?
Even if you poll is correct, which I doubt, many have become Christians after they were incarcerated. Plus, we are saved by grace not good deeds.
6. If all you do is follow God's rules, how does your life have any meaning? What makes it your life?
Because pleasing God is more important than pleasing self.
7. Where did that which you believe created the universe come from? (And if anything can always have existed, why not the universe and all its prior conditions?)
From Jesus. Because the creation can't of always existed because the Creator created it.
8. What about miracles? Aside from the most ridiculous claims, wouldn't most of what technology makes possible today have seemed miraculous to the ancients? So what's the big deal?
But the miracles happened at a time where it was undeniably the Hand of God.
9. What’s your view of Dawkins, Hitchens and Harris? Do you read anything else but the bible? Whomever says there is no God the Bible declares as a fool.
10. If there is but one God, then why does every society have a different religion? Because Satan has done a masterful job of deceiving the masses. He masquerades as an angel of light.
(July 18, 2014 at 12:27 am)Revelation777 Wrote: [quote='whateverist' pid='708741' dateline='1405402889']
1. How is the method by which you became a Christian reliable?
Based on the Truth of the Bible, my own personal experiences, and the experiences of the dramatically changed lives of others makes it a no brainer that this is God and His Word is Truth
2. Apart from church dogma, how can you know what happens when we die?
It is what God's Word says about what happens after you die.
3. What if you and your silly bible are wrong and there is no heaven, hell or afterlife of any kind?
What if your wrong? God is never wrong neither is His Word so the question asks an impossible scenario.
4. If you are God's unthinking lacky, how can you call yourself moral? Do you really think morality is simply a question of rule following?
God placed His Son's perfect righteousness on those whom believe in Christ.
5. Even if there is a God, you are obviously free to do what you want. The prisons are full of Christians. Do you or do you not believe God gave man free will?
Even if you poll is correct, which I doubt, many have become Christians after they were incarcerated. Plus, we are saved by grace not good deeds.
6. If all you do is follow God's rules, how does your life have any meaning? What makes it your life?
Because pleasing God is more important than pleasing self.
7. Where did that which you believe created the universe come from? (And if anything can always have existed, why not the universe and all its prior conditions?)
From Jesus. Because the creation can't of always existed because the Creator created it.
8. What about miracles? Aside from the most ridiculous claims, wouldn't most of what technology makes possible today have seemed miraculous to the ancients? So what's the big deal?
But the miracles happened at a time where it was undeniably the Hand of God.
9. What’s your view of Dawkins, Hitchens and Harris? Do you read anything else but the bible? Whomever says there is no God the Bible declares as a fool.
10. If there is but one God, then why does every society have a different religion? Because Satan has done a masterful job of deceiving the masses. He masquerades as an angel of light.
Let me translate:
1. Bible answers that.
2. Bible answers that.
3. Bible answers that.
4. Bible answers that.
5. Bible answers that.
6. Bible answers that.
7. Bible answers that.
8. Bible answers that.
9. Bible answers that.
9 & 3/4. PRAIZE JEEZUZ!!!!
10. Bible answers that.
Luke: You don't believe in the Force, do you?
Han Solo: Kid, I've flown from one side of this galaxy to the other, and I've seen a lot of strange stuff, but I've never seen *anything* to make me believe that there's one all-powerful Force controlling everything. 'Cause no mystical energy field controls *my* destiny. It's all a lot of simple tricks and nonsense.
First of all… how can you ask about things you reject outright? How would anything faith based make any sense to you? Or is this just meant to be atheistic entertainment?
So far, I haven't witnessed any willingness to accept anything expressed by the few Christians that replied to you.
Religion aside, in any situation, why would anyone want to know about something that is totally rejected? There is no purpose except to belittle the person and their held belief system.
Since we're probing for answers here, how bout you sitting in your own interrogation chair for a spell?
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1. How is the method by which you became a Atheist reliable?
2. Apart from atheist dogma, how can you know what happens when we die?
3. What if you and your silly atheism are wrong and there is a heaven, hell or afterlife of some kind? (we Christians may have a leg up there?)
4. If you are atheisms unthinking lacky, how can you call yourself moral? Do you really think morality is simply a question of rule following? (Overall atheists are not a moral bunch. There are no consequences. Nothing to be moral for? And if by chance you are some moral beacon of society, how do you convince fellow atheists of that?)
5. If there was a God, in your opinion…. Do you, or do you not believe God "would give" man a free will? Thus, purposely letting the man decide for himself which direction he wants to go?
6. If all you do is follow man's rules, how does your life have any meaning? What makes it your life?
7. Where did that which you believe did not created the universe come from? (Everything has a beginning, and an end. If you believe the universe is infinite, then why is it?)
8. What about the unexplained? Have you not had anything happen to you, or someone that is unexplained? Or, is everything explainable? If so, then you, or anyone else explain the unexplainable.
9. What’s your view of Jesus? Have you read the gospel? Or, do Dawkins and his hateful cohorts views make more sense to you?
10. If there is but one atheism, then why does every atheist have a different pov?
(July 19, 2014 at 9:26 pm)ronedee Wrote: First of all… how can you ask about things you reject outright? How would anything faith based make any sense to you? Or is this just meant to be atheistic entertainment?
So far, I haven't witnessed any willingness to accept anything expressed by the few Christians that replied to you.
It's merely a reversal of a number of questions for atheists posed on a Christian site. There's a whole thread about them here.
(July 19, 2014 at 9:26 pm)ronedee Wrote: Religion aside, in any situation, why would anyone want to know about something that is totally rejected? There is no purpose except to belittle the person and their held belief system.
Since we're probing for answers here, how bout you sitting in your own interrogation chair for a spell?
These aren't nearly as interesting as the originals, but why not?
Quote:1. How is the method by which you became a Atheist reliable?
Not believing in things until there is evidence to support them is part of the scientific method. It has produced some remarkable results over the centuries.
Quote:2. Apart from atheist dogma, how can you know what happens when we die?
What would atheist dogma be? There is only one thing necessary to be an atheist and that is not to have a belief in god. Simple.
As for what happens after I die, I can't know for sure, but since my consciousness appears to be entirely dependent on my brain I expect to cease when my brain ceases to function. There's no real evidence of life after death.
Quote:3. What if you and your silly atheism are wrong and there is a heaven, hell or afterlife of some kind? (we Christians may have a leg up there?)
If I'm wrong about whether there is an after life? Well I will be surprised. Whether I'm pleased or not would depend upon the particular afterlife. Ghostly wafting? Reincarnation? Heaven? Life in another universe? Hell? The possibilities are as endless as the imagination.
Would you have a leg up? Only if Christians are right about which of the myriad of ideas about the afterlife proposed by religions.
Quote:4. If you are atheisms unthinking lacky, how can you call yourself moral? Do you really think morality is simply a question of rule following? (Overall atheists are not a moral bunch. There are no consequences. Nothing to be moral for? And if by chance you are some moral beacon of society, how do you convince fellow atheists of that?)
Actually countries with higher percentages of atheism tend to have lower crime rates. Atheists are under represented in prison. That suggests at a minimum we are pretty law abiding. But that's just rule following isn't it?
Morality is more than rule following. But there is no atheist answer to the question. Atheism is not a philosophy.
Quote:5. If there was a God, in your opinion…. Do you, or do you not believe God "would give" man a free will? Thus, purposely letting the man decide for himself which direction he wants to go?
No idea. You'd have to describe the god you have in mind.
Quote:6. If all you do is follow man's rules, how does your life have any meaning? What makes it your life?
What "man's rules" do you mean. Laws. Yes I try to follow them but they don't give my life purpose. I give my life purpose and meaning.
Quote:7. Where did that which you believe did not created the universe come from? (Everything has a beginning, and an end. If you believe the universe is infinite, then why is it?)
I'm pretty comfort with "I don't know."
Quote:8. What about the unexplained? Have you not had anything happen to you, or someone that is unexplained? Or, is everything explainable? If so, then you, or anyone else explain the unexplainable.
I'm still pretty comfortable with I don't know. But then I haven't seen anything that suggests the supernatural.
Quote:9. What’s your view of Jesus? Have you read the gospel? Or, do Dawkins and his hateful cohorts views make more sense to you?
I used to be sure that there was a historical man named Jesus who preached in Galilee. Now I'm not sure of that.
I've read the gospels, acts, the epistles, and revelations on numerous occasions in several different translations. Dawkins certainly make more sense. But then he rarely speaks in parables.
Quote:10. If there is but one atheism, then why does every atheist have a different pov?
Because atheists share only one thing, they do not have a belief in god.
If there is a god, I want to believe that there is a god. If there is not a god, I want to believe that there is no god.
(July 19, 2014 at 9:26 pm)ronedee Wrote: Since we're probing for answers here, how bout you sitting in your own interrogation chair for a spell?
1. How is the method by which you became a Atheist reliable?
2. Apart from atheist dogma, how can you know what happens when we die?
3. What if you and your silly atheism are wrong and there is a heaven, hell or afterlife of some kind? (we Christians may have a leg up there?)
4. If you are atheisms unthinking lacky, how can you call yourself moral? Do you really think morality is simply a question of rule following? (Overall atheists are not a moral bunch. There are no consequences. Nothing to be moral for? And if by chance you are some moral beacon of society, how do you convince fellow atheists of that?)
5. If there was a God, in your opinion…. Do you, or do you not believe God "would give" man a free will? Thus, purposely letting the man decide for himself which direction he wants to go?
6. If all you do is follow man's rules, how does your life have any meaning? What makes it your life?
7. Where did that which you believe did not created the universe come from? (Everything has a beginning, and an end. If you believe the universe is infinite, then why is it?)
8. What about the unexplained? Have you not had anything happen to you, or someone that is unexplained? Or, is everything explainable? If so, then you, or anyone else explain the unexplainable.
9. What’s your view of Jesus? Have you read the gospel? Or, do Dawkins and his hateful cohorts views make more sense to you?
10. If there is but one atheism, then why does every atheist have a different pov?
You're a little late to the party Ronny. My ten questions are already a parody of a list of ten questions printed on a xtian website which was the inspiration for a thread here obn the atheist subforum.
So yes. The questions are awful and insulting, but considering the source we shouldn't be surprised. Looks like my thread has communicated what I'd hoped for.
(July 19, 2014 at 11:46 pm)ronedee Wrote: Well…. I still think my questions were better than the original Christians. Of course that was with help/inspiration from whateverist.
July 20, 2014 at 12:54 am (This post was last modified: July 20, 2014 at 12:54 am by Esquilax.)
(July 19, 2014 at 11:46 pm)ronedee Wrote: No life after death? Explain this:
An innocuous initial story, plus leading questions from the parents, plus a desire to milk this sudden "story" for cash. And I'm willing to bet money that if this family had been, say, Hindu or Muslim and attributed this to their faith, you would dismiss it outright.
Oh, plus? "Explain this:" is an argument from ignorance, because even if I had no answer, that wouldn't make your wild leap of imagination true.
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