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RE: would the world be better off if we all died?
July 19, 2014 at 3:31 pm
Sorry to hear you're despairing Jextin, and feel like you can't cope with their preaching bullshit.
But there is still hope. There's something you can do to ensure you win every time when confronted with the dogmatic clowns out there.
Ignore them.
Once you do that, you can focus on what defines you, what makes you happy, and the reasons why life is worth living.
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RE: would the world be better off if we all died?
July 19, 2014 at 6:54 pm
I never understood why people that hate to be alive stay that way. Furthermore I don't understand why they talk about it incessantly.
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RE: would the world be better off if we all died?
July 19, 2014 at 7:04 pm
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-We have a hellacious drive towards survival, even in abjectly terrible conditions...combined with an absolute need to run our mouths. Blame it on biology.
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RE: would the world be better off if we all died?
July 19, 2014 at 8:32 pm
Meh. When I get sad/depressed I get quiet. If I ever got suicidal for reasons other than terminal illness, I probably wouldn't talk at all.
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RE: would the world be better off if we all died?
July 19, 2014 at 8:36 pm
I bet you'd be having endless internal conversations....hehehe.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: would the world be better off if we all died?
July 19, 2014 at 8:47 pm
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I don't agree with the OP's philosophical ideas about it all being pointless. But, would Planet Earth be better off without humans living on it as we currently inhabit the Earth today? I'd say yes. We are causing global problems that we refuse to take care of or even attempt to solve that most certainly can spell our demise. But if we got our shit together, then we could reverse the trend and make the Earth a better place if not a Utopia for all living things that would actually benefit the planet and other life itself. So I'd say there is hope, instead of being hopeless about it all because there's no afterlife or purpose from on high. I pity the other animals we are bringing down with us more than ourselves. Mostly because, we should know better by now that we are the stewards of our planet, not some magical being from an old book. The other animals are just caught in the crossfire of our ignorance. But the main point is, if we die, that's not the end of the world, just the end of our species and Earth will move on just fine if not better.
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RE: would the world be better off if we all died?
July 19, 2014 at 8:58 pm
No. I like living...
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RE: would the world be better off if we all died?
July 20, 2014 at 5:05 am
(July 19, 2014 at 8:58 pm)Blackout Wrote: No. I like living...
I do too Blackers, but what about this perspective.
90% of the worlds population live in fairly squalid conditions.
It is the greed of the other 10% which ensures that it remains that way. That's us, the western world, with our iphones, v8 cars, etc.
Greed is a normal human condition, it is a subset of our survival instincts. So for the foreseeable future, I can't see it getting any better.
Maybe in 1000 years or more?
So right now, If we killed all life on earth, how many billions will not suffer at our expense. I think it's a small price to pay.
I can't stand suffering. We have created a world where there is a huge net sum of suffering. By created I mean, those in power, have the power to change anything and everything but like all Café Christians, we choose the path of least resistance to our lifestyle.
Don't mean to sound down, I just say it as I see it.
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RE: would the world be better off if we all died?
July 20, 2014 at 7:48 am
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(July 20, 2014 at 5:05 am)ignoramus Wrote: (July 19, 2014 at 8:58 pm)Blackout Wrote: No. I like living...
I do too Blackers, but what about this perspective.
90% of the worlds population live in fairly squalid conditions.
It is the greed of the other 10% which ensures that it remains that way. That's us, the western world, with our iphones, v8 cars, etc.
Greed is a normal human condition, it is a subset of our survival instincts. So for the foreseeable future, I can't see it getting any better.
Maybe in 1000 years or more?
So right now, If we killed all life on earth, how many billions will not suffer at our expense. I think it's a small price to pay.
I can't stand suffering. We have created a world where there is a huge net sum of suffering. By created I mean, those in power, have the power to change anything and everything but like all Café Christians, we choose the path of least resistance to our lifestyle.
Don't mean to sound down, I just say it as I see it.
Cheers to all! Have a great day! hehe
I really like the quote in your sig, I often feel like I'm the only real atheist here and everyone else only comes here when they are having a bad day at http://www.christianforums.com I'm the only one who can see the world for what it is, and atheists here copy and paste philosophical quotes just like how Christians copy and paste bible verses, I'm the only one who actually thinks for himself. And when they can't find a valid flaw in your argument they use technicalities to sound smart and when they can't even do that, they attack your grammar.
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RE: would the world be better off if we all died?
July 20, 2014 at 7:58 am
Quote:90% of the worlds population live in fairly squalid conditions.
It is the greed of the other 10% which ensures that it remains that way. That's us, the western world, with our iphones, v8 cars, etc.
Greed is a normal human condition, it is a subset of our survival instincts. So for the foreseeable future, I can't see it getting any better.
Maybe in 1000 years or more?
First, do you think we can consider greed as a natural trait? I have my doubts if it is natural/biological or a social acquired behavioural trait. Second, it's not impossible to dream of a better world
Quote:So right now, If we killed all life on earth, how many billions will not suffer at our expense. I think it's a small price to pay.
I can't stand suffering. We have created a world where there is a huge net sum of suffering. By created I mean, those in power, have the power to change anything and everything but like all Café Christians, we choose the path of least resistance to our lifestyle.
So it's better to kill everyone and end suffering? Better than changing the system? By the way, applying your line of thoughts we could just execute people in 3rd world countries, no need to kill those who live with dignity. And why can't I live and enjoy my staying here just because others have it much worse? That's something I'll never understand. 'Hey son don't waste food, kids in Africa don't have any...' 'But dad, if I I eat my food is it going to make kids in Africa eat more?...'... Yeah right
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