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Poll: North Korean Policy?
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No interference, just leave North Korea alone.
71.43%
10 71.43%
Trade with North Korea because the strategy transformed China earlier and it could work in North Korea.
14.29%
2 14.29%
Increase hostilities because new resources would simply help the current leadership.
14.29%
2 14.29%
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North Korean policy?
#71
RE: North Korean policy?
(July 30, 2014 at 6:07 pm)Chuck Wrote:
(July 30, 2014 at 5:37 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: I get the idea of opening up trade in order to increase the inflow of ideas into the country, but it seems to me possible, if not likely, that the regime would have control over the disbursement of aid, and devote it to its military. Or, as has happened in East Africa, use that aid disbursement in order to reward loyalists and punish those who appear to be wavering, or falling short of the Five Year Plan, etc.


Kim family is too closely tied to too many atrocities, and has too few real accomplishments benefiting North Koreans to show for it, that there is no possible way this family can remain safe without having truly, as oppose to rethorically, totalitarian powers to crush dissent at all levels. Any substantial liberalization of economy must erode the actual totalitarian control of the kim family. So as long as the Kim family remains in independent charge, things will not be allowed to improve much.


Pretty much what I'm thinking. I also think that the only possible mechanism for controlled change would be China putting the squeeze on them by using border access as the lever -- that would put the Kims 'tween the Devil and the deep blue.

Of course, that won't happen until and unless China itself experiences some political change of its own. It's not China's style.

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#72
RE: North Korean policy?
(July 30, 2014 at 2:30 am)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: I can't even imagine.

Lucker dog... Dodgy
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#73
RE: North Korean policy?
After reading all the replies, it seems that only a "democratic" coup could change the situation in North Korea. By either the citizens, military or citizens and military.
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#74
RE: North Korean policy?
It also seems like that should have already happened by now.
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#75
RE: North Korean policy?
So, you think there is a supernatural force at work...or simply a form of nationalism loyal to any kind of leadership?
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#76
RE: North Korean policy?
I think propaganda works better with no competition and brainwashing works well in conjunction with starvation.
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#77
RE: North Korean policy?
Atheist04330, will you please autograph my Detroit Pistons and Chicago Bulls jerseys?
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#78
RE: North Korean policy?
(July 31, 2014 at 1:41 pm)CristW Wrote: After reading all the replies, it seems that only a "democratic" coup could change the situation in North Korea. By either the citizens, military or citizens and military.

How would that happen? There is no room for disobedience. No avenue to grind against the binds what tie.

(July 31, 2014 at 2:00 pm)Little lunch Wrote: I think propaganda works better with no competition and brainwashing works well in conjunction with starvation.

It helps to exercise one's full totalitarian power every now and then.
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