Let's just hope he doesn't nuke my IP, I guess. I think I may be beyond the range of his longest dong though, I probably don't have much to worry about.

(July 29, 2014 at 11:28 am)atheist04330 Wrote: Did you watch the videos i posted at all?

You got a case of "willful ignorance" friend...

I'm not omnipresent.. I don't see every post that happens here. All I see is you posting a handful of words to the effect of 'nuh uh..'

In my perfect world I'm mistaken and the people of north korea live happy and carefree but I really don't believe thats true.

(July 29, 2014 at 11:28 am)atheist04330 Wrote:

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just take a look:
https://www.youtube.com/user/stimmekoreas
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCO0azKP...EIcD9HlKAw
https://www.youtube.com/user/MrDPRKMEDIA
https://www.youtube.com/user/NKTVification
https://www.youtube.com/user/rodrigorojo1
theres like 500 others...

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But i am not here to fight with people..
Think what you will..

Those are all fucking retarded. The first one is a huge video in korean.. The others are crackly propaganda videos. Seriously.. what the fuck is this shit. The description on the intro video for the last link is: "We will turn Seoul into a sea of flames by our strong and cruel artillery firepower, which cannot be compared to our artillery shelling on Yeonpyeong Island."

None of this is even close to anything I'd consider a believable source.

(July 29, 2014 at 11:44 am)Rhythm Wrote: Let's just hope he doesn't nuke my IP, I guess.

"IP" is wicked imperialistic yankee concept which the glorious leader will never stoop to accept.

(July 28, 2014 at 9:55 pm)atheist04330 Wrote: there are no death camps... there are prizon camps for people who brake the law or commit acts of treason...


sometimes people who commit treason are killed..

But you know for a fact the usa goverment would just love to kill Edward snowden if they could.. the Us has killed people for treason in the past...

The (few) people who have survived and escaped the documented and photographed death camps would say you're full of shit.

Killing people for treason is a terrible policy for any regime, true, but let's not for a moment overlook the fact that NK is a state that has been documented to extend prison camps around villages that are in the vicinity of gulags in order to increase the population that are de facto slaves in a policy of forced labour enacted by the Kim family. Forced to mine and farm and given next to no sustenance to keep themselves alive.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnew...-show.html

Have you ever read any of the first hand accounts of survivors who have managed to escape from the NK gulags? Have you ever spoken to or listened to the survivors who have managed to defect to SK or have taken the often week long journey through china (who deport North Koreans back to Korea if they're found) to Indo China to escape the sword of Damocles constantly hanging over the head of them and their families? If not, consider doing it before you readily dismiss their existence based on what I can only assume is your personal relationship to someone who is probably far, far removed from the reality of living under a megalomaniacal, sadistic tyrant:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Aquariums-Pyongy...1843544997
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Nothing-Envy-Liv...y_b_text_z
http://www.bookdepository.com/book/97803...tAodnxMA4A
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shin_Dong-hyuk
http://world.time.com/2014/02/18/gruesom...rea-gulag/

(July 29, 2014 at 9:53 am)atheist04330 Wrote: dude there are tours and shit man.. you don't got to sneak shit

Oh yes, the tours where you're guarded by a NK official and only see what the government wants you to see.

Fun fact. Channel 4 news here in the UK went on one of those tours and the best thing they saw was a hospital with no patients, and a department store with no clothes and no commodities, and no shoppers. An underground system where the loud speakers played the propaganda of the Kim's 24/7, and where the people refused to say anything about the Kim's except how much they loved them and how much they hated the the South Koreans and the USA.

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entert...40493.html

http://www.channel4.com/programmes/dispa...cret-state

Yep. In North Korea, everything is fine:


Yup, NK is the superior state, and under the stewardship of the Kim's they have advanced to be the most technologically advanced nation on earth! Must have one of the lowest electricity bills in the world, too!

(July 28, 2014 at 9:55 pm)atheist04330 Wrote:

(July 28, 2014 at 9:40 pm)Rhythm Wrote: What do you think about the happy-time fun-camps, then?

there are no death camps...

In other news, we are at war with Eastasia. We've always been at war with Eastasia.

(July 29, 2014 at 2:49 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:

(July 28, 2014 at 9:55 pm)atheist04330 Wrote: there are no death camps...

In other news, we are at war with Eastasia. We've always been at war with Eastasia.

Taken from wiki, summarising escape from camp 14's survivor and defector Shin Dong-Hyuk (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shin_Dong-hyuk):

Quote:Shin experienced considerable violence in the camp,[8] and witnessed dozens of executions every year.[7] Part of Shin's right middle finger was cut off by his supervisor as punishment for accidentally breaking a sewing machine.[9] He witnessed adult prisoners and children beaten every day,[10][11] and many prisoners dying of starvation, illness, torture and work accidents.[7] He learned to survive by any means, including eating rats, frogs, and insects, and reporting on fellow inmates for rewards. When Shin was 13 years old, he overheard his mother and brother planning an escape attempt. Shin told the custodian of his school, as informing was something he was taught to do from an early age, and he hoped to be rewarded.[1][5]

However, the school custodian took full credit for discovering the plan, and rather than being rewarded, Shin was arrested and guards tortured him for four days to extract more information, believing him to be part of the plan to escape.[1][5] According to Shin, the guards lit a charcoal fire under his back and forced a hook into his skin so that he could not struggle which caused many large scars still visible on his body.[12][13] On 29 November 1996, after approximately seven months spent in a tiny concrete prison cell, he was released and joined by his father, who had also been imprisoned. They were driven back to the main camp wearing blindfolds and their hands tied behind their backs. Camp officials then forced Shin and his father to watch the public executions of Shin's mother and brother; he then understood he had been responsible for the executions.[5][14][15] Shin said that in that moment, at age 13, he thought his mother deserved to die for planning to flee without him and for favoring his brother, but later in life the brutal executions of his mother and brother would haunt him.[1][5]

(July 28, 2014 at 9:55 pm)atheist04330 Wrote: there are no death camps... there are prizon camps for people who brake the law or commit acts of treason...


sometimes people who commit treason are killed..

But you know for a fact the usa goverment would just love to kill Edward snowden if they could.. the Us has killed people for treason in the past...

No, there are no death camps, only enforced end of life camps for the benefit of phenomenally treasonous bastards who refuse to self-execute by starvation on the soil of the North Korean motherland, and cowardly sought instead to sneak across the border in search of food.

It's almost as if they think the great leader Kim Jong un ought to be deprived of kilos of caviar and cognac, to say nothing of his kindly double chin, in order so they can have a few extra grains of rice.

Fidel, I was wondering when someone would break and start posting the serious shit going on in NK. So, how about these little fun bites.

Kwon Hyok Wrote:"The most unforgettable scene I remember was when I watched an entire family being killed. They were put inside the chamber and I saw them all suffocate to death. The last person to die was the youngest son who was crying for his parents and eventually died."

http://nkdb.org/bbs1/data/publication/Po..._Today.pdf

Here's a whole little book. How fun! Ooh, here's one of my personal favorites, but the thing is a gold mine for terrible shit.

Kang Cheol-hwan, former
prisoner, Kuwup-ni, Camp No. 15, 1977-1987 Wrote:Six children left the work site to eat wild berries up in the mountains
behind the school building. For punishment, they were ordered to hold up
their arms and open their hands, showing that their hands were stained
with the dark color from the berries. Park Tae-su, the teacher, ordered
them to be on their hands and left leg while keeping the other leg in the
air and then told them to move backward. They were ordered to move around the playground until the black berry color disappeared from their hands. Their hands began to be peeled and the blood started to trickle
slowly. He kicked the children in the face and crushed their hands by
stomping on them if the children stopped.

Ooh, and right after it, here's another. It's so hard to choose between all of these atrocities, y'know?

Ahn Myong-chol, former guard,
Camp No. 11, 13 and 22, 1987-1994 Wrote:The SSA officer sat on the chair and used a fishing rod baited with pork fat to entice the naked woman prisoner crawling like a dog and this made her jump like a frog to catch the meat. The SSA officer enjoyed it by holding the meat higher to keep the prisoner from catching the meat and lowering it again to give her another chance.

Mm, sexy, right...?

Ahn Myong-chol, former guard, Camp No.
11, 13 and 22, 1987-1994 Wrote:I tried so hard to have an abortion because I would be killed if my pregnancy was disclosed. I ate dirt in a ditch. I pricked my belly with a wooden stick. I begged a person to kick my belly. But the baby continued growing in my womb. I found myself wanting to keep the baby. One day, my mother told me to eat the boiled peony flower roots. I was nearly dead. My belly was upset and I passed out because of poison. I was affected with liver cirrhosis. I couldn’t digest well, the vomiting and diarrhea never
stopped. I lost the baby. Many girls even died after eating peony flower roots to get rid of a baby.

Fun place, though, right?

I can't even imagine. But to have atheist whatever his name is just say that everything is fine in NK...

You're right, certainly a fun, happy place to be!