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Hey Anti-Theists! Prove Your Claim
August 11, 2014 at 12:38 pm
Sorry I couldn't resist making fun of the inane "Hey Atheists..." titled threads. Anyway...
For those of you that self-describe as anti-theists, you face the same burden of proof as believers. So, please share the compelling proof or evidence that you believe disproves the existence of a god or gods.
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RE: Hey Anti-Theists! Prove Your Claim
August 11, 2014 at 12:38 pm
(This post was last modified: August 11, 2014 at 12:40 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
That's not the anti-theist position, dolt. I would remain an anti-theist...even if there were a god.....and even more stringently so. I don't bow the knee to tyranny by sheer force of it's existence. Reach down and grab your nuts, bro.
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RE: Hey Anti-Theists! Prove Your Claim
August 11, 2014 at 12:42 pm
Every time I decide to prove that god doesn't exist, the invisible leprechaun on my shoulder glares at me. I'm not sure what it is he wants, but he scares the shit out of me. So I just close the thread and wait for my heart to stop racing.
Umm... I don't think he liked this post. AT ALL.
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RE: Hey Anti-Theists! Prove Your Claim
August 11, 2014 at 12:44 pm
He should, Lugh is a fucking badass from way back. You're likely to get a spear to the eye if you piss him off.
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RE: Hey Anti-Theists! Prove Your Claim
August 11, 2014 at 12:47 pm
(August 11, 2014 at 12:38 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: Sorry I couldn't resist making fun of the inane "Hey Atheists..." titled threads. Anyway...
For those of you that self-describe as anti-theists, you face the same burden of proof as believers. So, please share the compelling proof or evidence that you believe disproves the existence of a god or gods.
An anti-theist is someone who doesn't think anyone should be a theist.
It tends to be conflated with 'anti-religious'.
But it's not the same thing as strong atheist, so there's really nothing for the anti-theists to prove, unless you want them to say something to prove they think theism should be avoided by all right-thinking folks. 
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
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RE: Hey Anti-Theists! Prove Your Claim
August 11, 2014 at 1:01 pm
(August 11, 2014 at 12:38 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: For those of you that self-describe as anti-theists, you face the same burden of proof as believers. So, please share the compelling proof or evidence that you believe disproves the existence of a god or gods.
Show me your compelling proof or evidence that R'hllor, the Lord of Light, doesn't exist.
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RE: Hey Anti-Theists! Prove Your Claim
August 11, 2014 at 1:08 pm
Poor Chad...so desperate...so fucked up.
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RE: Hey Anti-Theists! Prove Your Claim
August 11, 2014 at 1:13 pm
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Luckily my claim, which is that religion does more harm than good in the world, is pretty easy to prove if you google historical and even current events regarding religion. One might say that there's a difference between religion and a personal relationship with the lord, but seeing as the lord started all this, and his followers are killing each other as well as non abrahamic religious people, I'd say he's not very competent.
My anti theism doesn't have much, if anything, to do with Yahweh's or Jesus' existence. It's more about what people have done in the name of this god that likely doesn't exist.
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RE: Hey Anti-Theists! Prove Your Claim
August 11, 2014 at 1:22 pm
(August 11, 2014 at 12:38 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: Sorry I couldn't resist making fun of the inane "Hey Atheists..." titled threads. Anyway...
For those of you that self-describe as anti-theists, you face the same burden of proof as believers. So, please share the compelling proof or evidence that you believe disproves the existence of a god or gods.
OK..
1. God's most faithful fans, millions of them, cannot provide any un-impeached evidence of his existence.
2. The terms are posited vaguely to include extraneous "god" definitions and I view this as dishonest. My wife may be a "Goddess" of love but that is not what I refer to when I claim to be an anti-theist. My claim of anti-theism is not just that no evidence of any familiar gods is known contrary to the claims by theists, but that theism is bad for both society and individuals.
3. Religion is a psychological con game, where the religious hierarchy lie to gain the workers pay. Evidence of this is by my personal observation. Additional evidence could be easily verified by the IRS.
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RE: Hey Anti-Theists! Prove Your Claim
August 11, 2014 at 2:03 pm
About god belief, my only suggestion is to do it well or don't do it at all. I have no beef with theists who play well with others, don't repress the human spirit of their children and don't act as though they have the answer to questions they don't even understand. I'm against mainstream stupid religious institutions which really hurt people. But I'm unaware of any way to end them which wouldn't have the opposite effect. So it is probably more productive to call for better theology rather than providing material for rallying cries and feelings of persecution.
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