Ferguson: too much or not enough?

[Esquilax]

Seriously, hasn't the "looting" side of things been over for several days, while the "violent police action" bit continued on regardless? What kind of police action like that is justifiable days after the fact?

[Minimalist]

This is a mainly white police force guarding a mainly black population. They seem to think of themselves as an army of occupation.

[Brian37]

This is a mainly white police force guarding a mainly black population. They seem to think of themselves as an army of occupation.

It isn't just that, it is the big business pitting white middle class and white poor people against their same black counterparts. It allows everyone to ignore our slave wage society.

Play the races off of each other so they ignore the Corporate Welfare that is hurting everyone. If you have a scapegoat you can get society to ignore that those doing it are fleecing everyone.

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I find it a very sick and insidious tactic by the right and libertarians to just now get around to being concerned with an over armed police force. I AGREE, but it is a direct result of lack of livable wages, combined with the right protecting the gun industry which has produced a flooded market co.mbined with big business in general protecting slave wages. The same weapons industry that sells big clips and assault riffles to the public also sells them to police.

The rich in this country pit white middle class and white poor voters against the black middle class and black poor classes. Keep enough white people in the middle class and white working poor in fear of blacks, you have just enough of the voting public to ignore the real problem

[The Grand Nudger]

This is a mainly white police force guarding a mainly black population. They seem to think of themselves as an army of occupation.

Well, they certainly have the gear, eh? You know what's amusing to me, when I was a NATO peacekeeper, in an infantry unit, we used a lesser escalation of force and less aggressive equipment and tactics, you know, while we were maintaining the peace in a former warzone in which attempted genocide had gone down recently. We left all of our favorite toys back in Germany - and treated the locals with kid gloves. Apparently, law enforcement, on american soil, sans war and genocide....leveraged against civilians and not insurgents- is under no such restriction.

(I actually got fined for accidentally discharging my weapon into the air after an IED went off near me)

[Drich]

Seriously, hasn't the "looting" side of things been over for several days, while the "violent police action" bit continued on regardless? What kind of police action like that is justifiable days after the fact?

http://online.wsj.com/articles/missouri-...92?tesla=y

The reason? The crowd was upset by the release of the video that shows mr brown committing a robbery 30mins before he was shot.

The arguement is that police is trying to justify their actions by painting mr brown as a 'bad guy.'

Why isn't the question whether or not he did indeed commit the crime that was recorded? And how does this translate into the justification for looting, and escalating tension?

May I suggest this has nothing to do with rights or mr brown. This is just predators taking advantage of a situation to loot and pillage. The fact that there are people who will take any oppertunity to turn their backs on soceity and take, when and what ever they can as soon as the oppertunity present it's self.

'Those type of people' are the very reason we have police. I for one am glad there are police that stand between my family and those who turn on soceity the very first oppertunity that they get.

Take the police out of the equation and we will be living in 'the book of Eli.'

[Minimalist]

So that means we have to accept the abuses of uniformed thugs, Drippy?

What is wrong with trying to weed out the bad apples...and, btw, at the same time send a message to the rest of them that their mission is to "protect and serve" not "shoot on sight."

[Esquilax]

Why isn't the question whether or not he did indeed commit the crime that was recorded?

Because the police officer that killed him wasn't aware that he was a robbery suspect when he pulled the trigger. It literally isn't germane to the situation at hand, and hence is just an attempt to paint Brown as a bad guy after the fact.

And how does this translate into the justification for looting, and escalating tension?

There is no justification for looting. However, the looting happened on Saturday, while the police were still shooting at and tear gassing peaceful protestors days later, which is the only point I made. It's strange that you missed it.

[Napoléon]

There is no justification for looting. However, the looting happened on Saturday, while the police were still shooting at and tear gassing peaceful protestors days later, which is the only point I made. It's strange that you missed it.

Strange, Jaysyn said the last day they did looting was the Sunday?

[Jaysyn]

There is no justification for looting. However, the looting happened on Saturday, while the police were still shooting at and tear gassing peaceful protestors days later, which is the only point I made. It's strange that you missed it.

Strange, Jaysyn said the last day they did looting was the Sunday?

Saturday night / Sunday morning. There was another round of it the night before last, but this time the protesters were actually guarding the stores from the looters.

[psychoslice]

Its racism, if a white young man was shot dead by a black cop, nothing would have been said, also this event is bringing out the low life of Ferguson, stealing and shotting at innocent police and media, there is no excuse at all for this low life behaviour,