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Dawkins sparks outrage for saying Down Syndrome babies should be aborted
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RE: Dawkins sparks outrage for saying Down Syndrome babies should be aborted
(August 22, 2014 at 1:37 am)Polaris Wrote: I recall a certain political leader from the 20th century also being quite fond of eugenics.

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RE: Dawkins sparks outrage for saying Down Syndrome babies should be aborted
(August 22, 2014 at 1:37 am)Polaris Wrote: I recall a certain political leader from the 20th century also being quite fond of eugenics.

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#33
RE: Dawkins sparks outrage for saying Down Syndrome babies should be aborted
Ugh, some of these fucking headlines make me sick: https://www.facebook.com/topic/Richard-D...9604843827

"Atheist Richard Dawkins Just Said Something So Outrageous That You'll Think It Came From ISIS"

"Richard Dawkins Exposes the Immorality of His Atheism"

"Militant Atheist Richard Dawkins: It's 'Immoral' To Let Down Syndrome Babies Be Born"

Some random quote from a nobody dickwad:

Quote:Richard Dawkins' comments about Down syndrome are not only morally troubling, but they also reinforce negative stereotypes that do little to help the atheist activist community.
But in the spirit of free speech, while I am disturbed by what was said, I defend the right of Dawkins to share his views.
Sigh.


Let's get one thing fucking straight. Dawkins was incredibly tactless, yes. But he's not wrong. He's also not immoral, and it makes me absolutely fucking sick that the religious contingent in all of this have the audacity to even dare take the moral fucking high ground. What planet are these people living on? How many fucking women have died as a result of religious pressure not to get an abortion even when having a baby is life threatening to the mother. How many kids are born into poverty because contraception is thought of as some kind of demonic plague by the religious. And these same people sit there and tarnish atheism (and indeed atheists on the whole) as immoral? As though his atheism even has anything to do at all with his stance on abortions? As though their own ideologies are not incredibly fucked up? Fuck these stupid fucking people.

I also hate the way they report on this and take what he said out of context. He didn't say it's immoral to let down syndrome babies be born. He said it would be immoral to bring it into the world if you have the choice. There's a fucking difference.
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#34
RE: Dawkins sparks outrage for saying Down Syndrome babies should be aborted
(August 22, 2014 at 1:37 am)Polaris Wrote: I recall a certain political leader from the 20th century also being quite fond of eugenics.

What a stupd thing to say. Aborting a defective fetus is not eugenics.
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#35
RE: Dawkins sparks outrage for saying Down Syndrome babies should be aborted
To be fair..I do wish Dawkins had a little more "internet accumen"...because while the majority of us know what he means, a lot of theists don't, and watching them furiously circlejerk on my news feed over a 140 character tweet is really annoying.
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RE: Dawkins sparks outrage for saying Down Syndrome babies should be aborted
(August 22, 2014 at 1:37 am)Polaris Wrote: I recall a certain political leader from the 20th century also being quite fond of eugenics.

He also believed in Christ as God's son. [Image: 35d8d93_th.jpg]

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RE: Dawkins sparks outrage for saying Down Syndrome babies should be aborted
(August 22, 2014 at 10:18 am)FatAndFaithless Wrote: To be fair..I do wish Dawkins had a little more "internet accumen"...because while the majority of us know what he means, a lot of theists don't, and watching them furiously circlejerk on my news feed over a 140 character tweet is really annoying.

He seems to be saying some things guaranteed to get attention. Does he have a book coming out?



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#38
RE: Dawkins sparks outrage for saying Down Syndrome babies should be aborted
"Godwin's Law" isn't "Godwin's Fallacy". Just because Nazis or Hitler are brought up, it doesn't make the argument invalid. Take it on its own merits. End femto-rant.
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RE: Dawkins sparks outrage for saying Down Syndrome babies should be aborted
(August 22, 2014 at 10:33 am)Endo Wrote: "Godwin's Law" isn't "Godwin's Fallacy". Just because Nazis or Hitler are brought up, it doesn't make the argument invalid. Take it on its own merits. End femto-rant.

The argument was pretty stupid on its own merits, though.
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RE: Dawkins sparks outrage for saying Down Syndrome babies should be aborted
(August 22, 2014 at 10:33 am)Endo Wrote: "Godwin's Law" isn't "Godwin's Fallacy". Just because Nazis or Hitler are brought up, it doesn't make the argument invalid. Take it on its own merits. End femto-rant.

What merits are they, exactly?

All I saw was an off hand sleight utilising a fallacious equivocation.
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