Dawkins sparks outrage for saying Down Syndrome babies should be aborted

[Losty]

[Napoléon]

As for your comment: fuck you. I had to hear racial slurs nearly every fucking day for 4 years, it affected my stress levels and so until I become a racist and used those terms every single day in a context where I am being racially hateful you don't get to tell me, ever, not to use them. I have to be able to express them to release the years of the built up rage and stress. I know it's not nice, but that's my point and that's the context that I do it in

FWIW this is the lamest excuse for using racial slurs I think I've ever seen.

[TheGamingAtheist]

There was a thread about this on reddit and I have to fully agree.

I am currently a caregiver for patients with mental and physical deformations. I feel pity for them because they're not happy and you can see it. It is written all over their face. I wish everyone was forced to do the work I do so they could see the misery my patients go through.

Medicated twice or more in a day with 20+ pills and liquids. Sedated when behaviors become too extravagant for us, or the police men, to handle... No privacy and never alone. You always have people poking and pronging at you. You have to have help bathing naked and you can't say no.

This isn't a life I'd wish upon anyone's child. It's terrible.

[Diablo]

There was a thread about this on reddit and I have to fully agree.

I am currently a caregiver for patients with mental and physical deformations. I feel pity for them because they're not happy and you can see it. It is written all over their face. I wish everyone was forced to do the work I do so they could see the misery my patients go through.

Medicated twice or more in a day with 20+ pills and liquids. Sedated when behaviors become too extravagant for us, or the police men, to handle... No privacy and never alone. You always have people poking and pronging at you. You have to have help bathing naked and you can't say no.

This isn't a life I'd wish upon anyone's child. It's terrible.

I couldn't do what you do.

[Losty]

I didn't think people with Down Syndrome needed that kind of extensive care. Seems like most live with family and some even live on their own.

[TheGamingAtheist]

I didn't think people with Down Syndrome needed that kind of extensive care. Seems like most live with family and some even live on their own.

Actually, my favorite patient just died three weeks ago who had Downs syndrome. He was 26 years old. He was having brain issues, part of a Downs syndrome problem, that went undisguised BECAUSE his family was too stuck up their own asses to bother with him. He needed our services for his medical treatment and behavioral problems.

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There was a thread about this on reddit and I have to fully agree.

I am currently a caregiver for patients with mental and physical deformations. I feel pity for them because they're not happy and you can see it. It is written all over their face. I wish everyone was forced to do the work I do so they could see the misery my patients go through.

Medicated twice or more in a day with 20+ pills and liquids. Sedated when behaviors become too extravagant for us, or the police men, to handle... No privacy and never alone. You always have people poking and pronging at you. You have to have help bathing naked and you can't say no.

This isn't a life I'd wish upon anyone's child. It's terrible.

I couldn't do what you do.

A lot of people say that. I'm surprised that I am able to do what I do to be truthful with you. Lol. It's not an easy job.

[Mudhammam]

I figured Dawkins would have learned to more carefully choose his words after his incredibly ignorant comments about "mild rape." But this...wow. What a fucking douche.

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There was a thread about this on reddit and I have to fully agree.

I am currently a caregiver for patients with mental and physical deformations. I feel pity for them because they're not happy and you can see it. It is written all over their face. I wish everyone was forced to do the work I do so they could see the misery my patients go through.

Medicated twice or more in a day with 20+ pills and liquids. Sedated when behaviors become too extravagant for us, or the police men, to handle... No privacy and never alone. You always have people poking and pronging at you. You have to have help bathing naked and you can't say no.

This isn't a life I'd wish upon anyone's child. It's terrible.

I do the same work, and I find many of them to be far more happy than "normal" people (that's not to contradict your observations, just any generalization some might infer that mental and physical deformations necessitate unhappiness.).

[c172]

I used paratransit to get around greater Pittsburgh when I lived there. I have never owned a car. For any trip you register, you may have any number of pickups and dropoffs before your own dropoff. The North Hills, the suburban area that I lived in, had an outpatient center run by the local psych hospital. It would provide daytime liesure and enrichment services (read sometimes: "daycare") for a great number of intellectually disabled adults in the area. I think I noticed the same gamut of emotions as in physically disabled people like myself, or even able-bodies, or any subset you want to use. Some were happy and had had a good day, others were depressed or angry, and others were indifferent. I think it's easy to inject ones own biases here, though, and maybe I have.

[Aractus]

Now you're getting it. Who buys a severely damaged brand new car?

No you're not getting it. My point is that judging others for their congestive ability, or generally just for being "not normal" is not healthy for society.

[Thumpalumpacus]