Secularist Anne Marie Waters on Islam
September 3, 2014 at 2:25 am
(This post was last modified: September 3, 2014 at 2:38 am by mralstoner.)
This first video you might have already seen. The 2nd video is more recent.
I think she's a former leftist, now with UKIP, and "serves on the National Secular Society’s board of directors".
She has a blog:
http://www.annemariewaters.org/blog/
And a website:
http://www.shariawatch.org.uk/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnnfHhOlcKY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcxKE4JvvTY
A video from 2011, Anne Marie Waters - Secular Europe Campaign
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBXvzmnE6So
I think she's a former leftist, now with UKIP, and "serves on the National Secular Society’s board of directors".
She has a blog:
http://www.annemariewaters.org/blog/
And a website:
http://www.shariawatch.org.uk/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnnfHhOlcKY
Quote:Anne Marie Waters, Islam Is Not A Peaceful Religion, Oxford Union
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The point is that it is not I, or my fellow debaters on this side, who are causing fear of Islam. It is the actions of Muslims that are causing fear of Islam. That is the real world, that is where we actually live. Then we'll be told that this is just the extreme fringe of Islam...
Well, let me have a look at Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia is the birthplace of Islam, the custodian of its holy sites... People are executed for blasphemy, executed for apostasy. In Saudi Arabia, the birthplace of Islam, we'll be told that's the extreme fringe of Islam. No, it is not. Calling Saudi Arabia the extreme fringe of Islam is like calling the Vatican the extreme fringe of Catholicism. Sorry, it just doesn't work.
Then we'll be told that we've misunderstood. Violent Muslims have misunderstood. Saudi Arabia has misunderstood. Iran, which stones people to death for adultery has misunderstood. Yemen which marries children at the age of nine has misunderstood. Has there ever been a more spectacularly misunderstood religion than Islam?
It seems that everyone, these nations who apply it as their laws, nations which have the Koran as their constitution, inumerable, inumerable nations where there is no free speech, where there is no freedom of religion, they've all got it wrong, they've all got it wrong. It's quite a spectacularly misunderstood religion.
I'm constantly told, as well, that I need to respect Islam, I'm never quite given a good enough reason why. I am under no greater obligation to respect Islam than I am any other beliefs.
I am under no more obligation to respect a woman oppressed in the name of Islam than if she's oppressed by BNP or anyone else. I am under no obligation to make compromises with an ideology I simply don't see as peaceful. Why don't I see it as peaceful? Because of the evidence. If I look around the world and I see the countries where Islam calls the shots, all I see is brutality and violence imposed by the state... Now, you can argue that they've got it wrong, tell them that, because they seem to think that's what it is.
Is there a peaceful Islam? Yes there is. It's in the hearts of peaceful Muslims. Unfortunately, though, there's also a more objective Islam, and peaceful Muslims have to do some really rather creative interpretations, like the command to beat her...
There are hundreds of millions of peaceful Muslims. That is a fact, but that does not mean that Islam itself is peaceful. Peaceful Muslims interpret verses of the Koran almost beyond recognition it's re-interpreted, like the command to beat her, it's there in the Koran and I've seen Muslim women try to dance around it, they put words in there that simply aren't there. That's what it says, it says beat her. And in the countries where the Koran calls the shots, that is exactly what they do. This is not peace. This is not justice.
Islam is not a religion of peace, as the evidence show us.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcxKE4JvvTY
Quote:How Britain Became a Global Exporter of Terrorism, Anne Marie Waters
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2:00 The reason we have capitulated in the West, so much to Islam, is self-hatred. There's an underlying self-hatred of our own socities, of our own cultures. This is what has caused it...
We've got this multiculturalism, this dangerous multiculturalism in Britain, which is killing women, killing girls. And the Left not only doesn't say anything about it, but continues to push for it as a good. Even though it knows, even though it can see, that it's killing girls. We know for a fact that there are mosques in this country where little girls, of 8, 9, 10 years-of-age, are being "married" to an older men, and being raped.
3:00 We come back to this "it's only a tiny minority of extremists, it's got nothing to do with Islam" but the point is this stuff is coming directly from the Koran, from the Hadith...
4:30 We have got to start dealing with this. We've got to say "look we have freedom of speech, you can't beat up women, we won't stone people to death for their sex lifes. You have to accept that or you can't live here".
A video from 2011, Anne Marie Waters - Secular Europe Campaign
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBXvzmnE6So