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The Proof!
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RE: The Proof!
(September 30, 2014 at 1:14 pm)rtfguy Wrote: There is nothing any Christian can say to any atheist to make them believe in God... NOTHING!!! But, are you a chicken atheist or a true atheist? If you are a true atheist, do you really want to know if God exists? If so, ask Him! In all honesty, just say something like "Jesus, I really don't believe in you. I don't believe you exist but, if you do... prove it to me! Because I REALLY DO WANT TO KNOW!"

I was a Christian for over a decade as an adult. Nice try.
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#12
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I'm a banana loving atheist therfore I'm excused
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#13
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(September 30, 2014 at 1:14 pm)rtfguy Wrote: There is nothing any Christian can say to any atheist to make them believe in God... NOTHING!!! But, are you a chicken atheist or a true atheist? If you are a true atheist, do you really want to know if God exists? If so, ask Him! In all honesty, just say something like "Jesus, I really don't believe in you. I don't believe you exist but, if you do... prove it to me! Because I REALLY DO WANT TO KNOW!"

This old nonsense again?

How many times have we heard this, guys?

I used to be a very devout Christian and did just that.

Nothing.

Nada.

And don't go trying to say the follow up nonsense of "You weren't a true Christian™, or "you didn't try hard enough", or any of the other nonsense that usually gets repeated.

Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni:

"You did WHAT?  With WHO?  WHERE???"
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#14
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Surprised he isn't banned already just due to the sock storm we've been seeing lately.
In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to Liberty.
- Thomas Jefferson
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#15
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I have to say I think the proof for God is the world aeound us, creation.

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#16
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When I was in transition I used to pray that I don't lose faith while having this weird feeling. It's like a reboot or something
What is that feeling called? Confusion? (Serious question)
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#17
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(September 30, 2014 at 2:02 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: I have to say I think the proof for God is the world aeound us, creation.

And even then, it would be an equally shitty argument.
"Every luxury has a deep price. Every indulgence, a cosmic cost. Each fiber of pleasure you experience causes equivalent pain somewhere else. This is the first law of emodynamics [sic]. Joy can be neither created nor destroyed. The balance of happiness is constant.

Fact: Every time you eat a bite of cake, someone gets horsewhipped.

Facter: Every time two people kiss, an orphanage collapses.

Factest: Every time a baby is born, an innocent animal is severely mocked for its physical appearance. Don't be a pleasure hog. Your every smile is a dagger. Happiness is murder.

Vote "yes" on Proposition 1321. Think of some kids. Some kids."
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#18
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There is no objective proof for if there were, no one would be required to "believe" anything. Sort of like how 2+2=4. That doesn't require my belief to make it true.

Unlike "faith" and religion.
So your belief is not proof. Your desire to belief the Bible, is also not proof.

This thread's title is therefore...misleading. Angel
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#19
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(September 30, 2014 at 2:02 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: I have to say I think the proof for God is the world aeound us, creation.

You'd have to demonstrate it was created and didn't just exist. Bare assertions will get you nowhere.

The world around us is proof of its existence and nothing more.
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#20
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(September 30, 2014 at 2:18 pm)Deidre32 Wrote: There is no objective proof for if there were, no one would be required to "believe" anything. Sort of like how 2+2=4. That doesn't require my belief to make it true.

Unlike "faith" and religion.
So your belief is not proof. Your desire to belief the Bible, is also not proof.

This thread's title is therefore...misleading. Angel

Agreed.

It should be entitled, "The claim"

Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni:

"You did WHAT?  With WHO?  WHERE???"
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