To explain knowledge of God

[Surgenator]

Drich: "If you A/S/K, you'll get knowledge of God."
Anyone else: "I did A/S/K, but I did not get knowledge of God."
Drich: "Well, only if you really A/S/K do you get knowledge of God."

You don't stop for one moment to even consider your method is flawed.

I've put this to him many times. Not once did I get a satisfying answer.

The A/S/K method is unfalsifiable.

If we claim that we tried, there are an endless number of excuses Dritch can give on why it didn't work.

^^^^^^^^^ This ^^^^^^^^^

[Minimalist]

Because God said we must.

Where? And how do you know GOD said it?

King James Bible
Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:
Matty 7:7

Whaddaya know. Turns out ole jebus was full of shit.

[Aoi Magi]

If we claim that we tried, there are an endless number of excuses Dritch can give on why it didn't work.

...but it didn't work for him either! If it worked and he had the holy spirit, it would have certainly warned him against being stupid, wouldn't it?

[Minimalist]

it would have certainly warned him against being stupid, wouldn't it?

That seems to be a prerequisite.

[Anomalocaris]

If we claim that we tried, there are an endless number of excuses Dritch can give on why it didn't work.

...but it didn't work for him either! If it worked and he had the holy spirit, it would have certainly warned him against being stupid, wouldn't it?

Unless holy spirit is stupid.

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Drich: "If you A/S/K, you'll get knowledge of God."
Anyone else: "I did A/S/K, but I did not get knowledge of God."
Drich: "Well, only if you really A/S/K do you get knowledge of God."

You don't stop for one moment to even consider your method is flawed.

I've put this to him many times. Not once did I get a satisfying answer.

The A/S/K method is unfalsifiable.

If we claim that we tried, there are an endless number of excuses Dritch can give on why it didn't work.

Fortunately there is no excuse Drippy can give for being so stupid. It is not even his god's fault.

[DramaQueen]

Of course the holy spirit is stupid, he's (or it's I guess) hot

[Jenny A]

Drich: "If you A/S/K, you'll get knowledge of God."
Anyone else: "I did A/S/K, but I did not get knowledge of God."
Drich: "Well, only if you really A/S/K do you get knowledge of God."

You don't stop for one moment to even consider your method is flawed.

I've put this to him many times. Not once did I get a satisfying answer.

The A/S/K method is unfalsifiable.

If we claim that we tried, there are an endless number of excuses Dritch can give on why it didn't work.

Which brings me back to Moroni, Drich.

1. Ask God with a sincere heart if the Book of Mormon is the word of God.
2. Didn't hear a resounding yes?
3. You didn't ask with a sincere heart. Ask again.

[Drich]

Um... no Drips, you really are committing the NTS fallacy. You're setting up a set of rules for being a 'real' christian, then when someone who does not adhere to that set (even if they're a christian), you dub them as "not a real christian". You have no reasoned explanation for why these other christians aren't 'really' christians, which is where the 'unreasoned' part of the NTS comes in. It's a really simple fallacy to see, and you're doing it quite explicitly.

To be considered a Christian one must have the Holy Spirit. As per 1cor 12
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se...ersion=ERV

Luke 11 as per the recorded words of Christ is His Only perscribed way to obtain the Holy Spirit.

So to recap.
1)To be a Christian one must Have the Holy Spirit
"Now concerning spiritual gifts, brethren, I do not want you to be ignorant: 2 You know that[a] you were Gentiles, carried away to these dumb idols, however you were led. 3 Therefore I make known to you that no one speaking by the Spirit of God calls Jesus accursed, and no one can say that Jesus is Lord except by the Holy Spirit."

2) To obtain the Holy Spirit according to Christ we must A/S/K as outlined in Luke 11.

which leads us to 3) If we do not have the Holy Spirit we are not truly 'Christian' as per the works and words of the Apstole Paul.

So again, Not a 'no scots man fallacy' here. If one does not comply with the rules of Christianity He can not be 'Christian' as per the bible.

I mean, the definitive example of the NTS is right there on the page you linked, and it can easily be shown in different terms.
Person A: "No Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge."
Person B: "I am Scottish, and I put sugar on my porridge."
Person A: "Well, no true Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge."

can be seen as:

Look a little deeper sport.
Everything I have said is scripturally backed.
therefore a recorded requirement. In the NTS fallacy one has to speak or repersent what it means to be a 'scotsman' with trivial conditions.

Drich: "If you A/S/K, you'll get knowledge of God."
Anyone else: "I did A/S/K, but I did not get knowledge of God."
Drich: "Well, only if you really A/S/K do you get knowledge of God."

Not even close. This is a strawman. You have misrepersented my position and attacked what you have created.

Drich: If you A/S/K as per Luke 11 you will receive a measure of the Holy Spirit. Meaing you will be given a peice of God to help you establish and maintain a relationship.

Anyone else: We Asked, and sought, or we ask and knocked or I sought and asked once.... and did not receive anything therefore God can not be real because the universe spins around me, and if there is a God then he better damn well meet me on my terms who does he think he is...

Drich: He is God dumbass! If you can even boss around your boss or our world leaders what makes you think you can dictate terms to Almighty God? If you want what God offers you will humble yourself and meet Him on His terms. Know He will gladly see you to Hell before meeting you on yours.

Anyone else: I plea one of the following: No true scotsman, or begging the question, or non falsifiable.. Because it works for richard dawkins on youtube, to just about anything he can't answer so it must work here.

You don't stop for one moment to even consider your method is flawed.

...and you did not even consider 'my method' is not mine at all but what is actually written in the bible. Therefore not flawed but the only way one can obtain the Holy Spirit, and subsequently salvation.

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I've put this to him many times. Not once did I get a satisfying answer.

The A/S/K method is unfalsifiable.

If we claim that we tried, there are an endless number of excuses Dritch can give on why it didn't work.

^^^^^^^^^ This ^^^^^^^^^

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^THAT^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^!!!

[FatAndFaithless]

*rubs his temples* Sometimes I wonder why I bother at all with some theists on this site.

[Cyberman]

Because God said we must.

How do you know this?

And what makes it such an imperative? In other words, why should I care whether your god said it or not? First establish this god as an actual thing outside your head or your book. Only then can we talk about what I "must" do.