This is the Problem

[Surgenator]

If you would like to challenge me to a formal debate, I would gladly accept, and I'd even allow you to choose the topic. You don't get special rules because you are a theist. You get to play by the same rules as everybody else.

Ok then, I will choose the topic.
I will prove that Jesus Christ exists and you have to prove He does not! Condition is that I will use the Holy Bible as evidence and you can use whatever tool you have in your arsenal.

"I will use the Holy Bible as evidence"

You already lost.

[Christian]

[quote='Christian' pid='782829' dateline='1414354769']
You already lost.

No, in fact you are shying away from the debate. Let me prove my side of the argument first before you claim its lost or won.

[downbeatplumb]

The bible is the claim not the evidence.

Or in other words.

You can't say "this book is true because it says it is"

[Surgenator]

Let me summerize your argument.

[Christian]

The bible is the claim not the evidence.

Or in other words.

You can't say "this book is true because it says it is"

See this is the problem. You can make claims, but we Christians cannot. I made a claim, the onus is on me to prove it now. Your statement above is making accusations without letting myself prove my claim.

Let's get on with the debate!

[DramaQueen]

Che??!!!

[vorlon13]

Your irrational precondition precludes debate.

Jesus said so.

[DramaQueen]

His name is Yeshua'

[Christian]

My condition is not irrational. I will use my Holy Bible as evidence of my claims. That's fair enough, I think.

[Whateverist]

I will prove that Jesus Christ exists and you have to prove He does not! Condition is that I will use the Holy Bible as evidence and you can use whatever tool you have in your arsenal.

Personally I wouldn't want to have to argue that unicorns did not trample my garden today. Why would anyone want to argue that a person named Jesus never existed. Very likely he did. Of course there is no convincing reason to think he was ever a super duper god guy. So far as anyone knows that is just an element of a story. (I would be embarrassed to admit it if I believed such foolishness was real.)