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This is the Problem
RE: This is the Problem
(October 26, 2014 at 4:19 pm)Christian Wrote:
(October 25, 2014 at 11:49 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote: If you would like to challenge me to a formal debate, I would gladly accept, and I'd even allow you to choose the topic. You don't get special rules because you are a theist. You get to play by the same rules as everybody else.

Ok then, I will choose the topic.
I will prove that Jesus Christ exists and you have to prove He does not! Condition is that I will use the Holy Bible as evidence and you can use whatever tool you have in your arsenal.

"I will use the Holy Bible as evidence" ROFLOL

You already lost.
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(October 26, 2014 at 4:23 pm)Surgenator Wrote: [quote='Christian' pid='782829' dateline='1414354769']
You already lost.

No, in fact you are shying away from the debate. Let me prove my side of the argument first before you claim its lost or won.
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The bible is the claim not the evidence.

Or in other words.

You can't say "this book is true because it says it is"



You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid.

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Let me summerize your argument.

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(October 26, 2014 at 4:26 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: The bible is the claim not the evidence.

Or in other words.

You can't say "this book is true because it says it is"

See this is the problem. You can make claims, but we Christians cannot. I made a claim, the onus is on me to prove it now. Your statement above is making accusations without letting myself prove my claim.

Let's get on with the debate!
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Che??!!!
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Your irrational precondition precludes debate.

Jesus said so.
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His name is Yeshua'
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My condition is not irrational. I will use my Holy Bible as evidence of my claims. That's fair enough, I think.
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(October 26, 2014 at 4:19 pm)Christian Wrote: I will prove that Jesus Christ exists and you have to prove He does not! Condition is that I will use the Holy Bible as evidence and you can use whatever tool you have in your arsenal.

Personally I wouldn't want to have to argue that unicorns did not trample my garden today. Why would anyone want to argue that a person named Jesus never existed. Very likely he did. Of course there is no convincing reason to think he was ever a super duper god guy. So far as anyone knows that is just an element of a story. (I would be embarrassed to admit it if I believed such foolishness was real.)
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