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RE: Judgement day defense strageity.
October 26, 2014 at 3:18 pm
Oh well, let's play what if for a moment.
Since I followed my conscience of not hurting anyone else on my way if I could help it, I would ask of him, why he was in direct competition with Cthulhus set of morals.
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RE: Judgement day defense strageity.
October 26, 2014 at 3:18 pm
(October 26, 2014 at 3:08 pm)Drich Wrote: (October 26, 2014 at 3:05 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: Loaded question, to be disregarded.
And why do you want to know what would pass between me and this hypothetical creator? I know what I would say, and I have no doubt he'd be more thoughtful in judgment than you.
I stand corrected. This is a wrong answer.
Either way not going to argue what you would say I just would like to see what direction your general argument would go.
The very fact that you put a loaded question into your OP is mounting an argument. And the fact that you explicitly mounted an argument ("This is a wrong answer") immediately before saying you're not going to argue with what I would say means you're stupid, dishonest, or both.
I'll go with both.
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RE: Judgement day defense strageity.
October 26, 2014 at 3:19 pm
Depending how how things are set up, we may just sit down and have a long talk about what god is really like, and why the book of tales obviously didn't do what he supposedly wanted to do. If you can spend twenty years of your life, going to church, hanging out with christians, and learning from the bible, and still not find god...something is off.
If he wants to list off my wrongdoings, I'll do my best to defend them. If he starts talking about things I thought about, but didn't do, I'll explain there's a world of difference between thoughts and actions.
If he's just going to say "I don't know you. Be gone." I'll just say "Neither did I know you. Goodbye."
It kind of depends on how it goes. Will it be like checking off a list? Will it be a one on one personal chat? Will it be like a courtroom with a prosecutor and me possibly acting as my own defense? Or something else entirely?
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RE: Judgement day defense strageity.
October 26, 2014 at 3:20 pm
(October 26, 2014 at 3:11 pm)Drich Wrote: Because ASK method is what Jesus (the final judge) is what He Himself prescribed.
Is it? Because you are the only xian on this forum who seems to subscribe to this.
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RE: Judgement day defense strageity.
October 26, 2014 at 3:22 pm
(This post was last modified: October 26, 2014 at 3:25 pm by Drich.)
(October 26, 2014 at 3:18 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: (October 26, 2014 at 3:08 pm)Drich Wrote: I stand corrected. This is a wrong answer.
Either way not going to argue what you would say I just would like to see what direction your general argument would go.
The very fact that you put a loaded question into your OP is mounting an argument. And the fact that you explicitly mounted an argument ("This is a wrong answer") immediately before saying you're not going to argue with what I would say means you're stupid, dishonest, or both.
I'll go with both.
(October 26, 2014 at 3:19 pm)Chad32 Wrote: Depending how how things are set up, we may just sit down and have a long talk about what god is really like, and why the book of tales obviously didn't do what he supposedly wanted to do. If you can spend twenty years of your life, going to church, hanging out with christians, and learning from the bible, and still not find god...something is off.
If he wants to list off my wrongdoings, I'll do my best to defend them. If he starts talking about things I thought about, but didn't do, I'll explain there's a world of difference between thoughts and actions.
If he's just going to say "I don't know you. Be gone." I'll just say "Neither did I know you. Goodbye."
It kind of depends on how it goes. Will it be like checking off a list? Will it be a one on one personal chat? Will it be like a courtroom with a prosecutor and me possibly acting as my own defense? Or something else entirely?
I can offer my two cents if you like based on what I experience and what the bible says.. I was just curious, but if you want a dialog here I can respond.
(October 26, 2014 at 3:20 pm)Bad Wolf Wrote: (October 26, 2014 at 3:11 pm)Drich Wrote: Because ASK method is what Jesus (the final judge) is what He Himself prescribed.
Is it? Because you are the only xian on this forum who seems to subscribe to this.
That's not true.
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RE: Judgement day defense strageity.
October 26, 2014 at 3:26 pm
(October 26, 2014 at 3:22 pm)Drich Wrote: That's not true.
You are the only xian on here who I have seen that tells us to ASK. Why is that? Why don't any of the others?
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RE: Judgement day defense strageity.
October 26, 2014 at 3:28 pm
(October 26, 2014 at 2:40 pm)Drich Wrote: Ok, you just died. Long full life, good by western standards just not saved per the bible. Or you die after a short life still not saved in a fiery car crash, beheaded by isis or the ebolia get you, your choice, either way your dead..
Then you wake up...
This is either an awe sh*t moment or this is where you pull out the sum total of all of our discussions here.. Meaning when here you all seem to have been practicing why God is unjust and is not in a position to judge you.. So now you are not face down before the judgement seat of Christ. So what do you have to say when/if He asks you why you did not A/S/K for the proof you needed? Or do you throw yourself at the mercy of the judge? Or is their an option C you have worked out for yourself?
What if, Thor asked you why you fell for this A/S/K bullshit?
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RE: Judgement day defense strageity.
October 26, 2014 at 3:30 pm
(October 26, 2014 at 3:11 pm)Drich Wrote: (October 26, 2014 at 3:08 pm)Aoi Magi Wrote: options? how 'bout a giant middle finger in his face?
Again no real wrong answers if you answer... Just saying if you find yourself in front of a judge of any kind maybe take your hat off, end everything you say with a sir or mam, and DONOT put a giant middle finger in the judge's face. ok . "As per Drich's advice, here's a giant middle finger in your ass, JC mam".
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RE: Judgement day defense strageity.
October 26, 2014 at 3:30 pm
(October 26, 2014 at 2:40 pm)Drich Wrote: So now you are not face down before the judgement seat of Christ.
If you're face down, Jesus is the least of your concerns:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Np67piTSAzk
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RE: Judgement day defense strageity.
October 26, 2014 at 3:43 pm
(October 26, 2014 at 3:11 pm)Drich Wrote: (October 26, 2014 at 3:07 pm)Chas Wrote: OK, you just signed in to the forum. What's your strategy for avoiding these pointless 'what if' threads from a Christian on an atheism forum?
....maybe this is just a scare crow moment I am having, but wouldnt the best way to avoid a what if senerio be just to not answer them?
No, the best way is to not have them.
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