Judgement day defense strageity.

[Crossless2.0]

I'll defer all questions to my Jewish attorney -- the one with the rich Talmudic background, the Harvard law degree, and the dorsal fin. That should at least get me a stay, if not a hung jury, if the Gospels are any indication of the quality and sophistication of Jesus' arguments.

[Thumpalumpacus]

The very fact that you put a loaded question into your OP is mounting an argument. And the fact that you explicitly mounted an argument ("This is a wrong answer") immediately before saying you're not going to argue with what I would say means you're stupid, dishonest, or both.

I'll go with both.

[Drich]

That's not true.

You are the only xian on here who I have seen that tells us to ASK. Why is that? Why don't any of the others?

Again I have seen several others who identify and support Christ's teachings in Luke 11. Which makes your accusation untrue.

[dyresand]

Ok, you just died. Long full life, good by western standards just not saved per the bible. Or you die after a short life still not saved in a fiery car crash, beheaded by isis or the ebolia get you, your choice, either way your dead..

Then you wake up...

This is either an awe sh*t moment or this is where you pull out the sum total of all of our discussions here.. Meaning when here you all seem to have been practicing why God is unjust and is not in a position to judge you.. So now you are not face down before the judgement seat of Christ. So what do you have to say when/if He asks you why you did not A/S/K for the proof you needed? Or do you throw yourself at the mercy of the judge? Or is their an option C you have worked out for yourself?

welcome to the modern age we have guns rifles heavy machine guns and tanks and a whole nuclear arsenal. we also have have rockets and are working on space ships if the world was going to end some time in the future we would have already gone and left.

[Brakeman]

Since god apparently doesn't even have the clarity of thought found on internet conspiracy forums and he always expressed himself with riddles and codes, I find it hard to believe I'd understand what the old fart would say anyway as I don't speak telepathic-psycho-ego-fuzzy warm feelings anymore.

[abaris]

welcome to the modern age we have guns rifles heavy machine guns and tanks and a whole nuclear arsenal. we also have have rockets and are working on space ships if the world was going to end some time in the future we would have already gone and left.

We're just a wart on the ass of the world. The Dynosaurs have been around for at least 100 millions of years. Something that can be remotely called human is only around for about two millions if that.

Considering all you mentioned above, chances are we blow ourselves up before we manage to build an interstellar space ship. And the world would shrugg us off and continue without us.

[Bad Wolf]

Again I have seen several others who identify and support Christ's teachings in Luke 11. Which makes your accusation untrue.

My accusation is that I have not seen any of the others tell us to ASK.

[Chad32]

Depending how how things are set up, we may just sit down and have a long talk about what god is really like, and why the book of tales obviously didn't do what he supposedly wanted to do. If you can spend twenty years of your life, going to church, hanging out with christians, and learning from the bible, and still not find god...something is off.

If he wants to list off my wrongdoings, I'll do my best to defend them. If he starts talking about things I thought about, but didn't do, I'll explain there's a world of difference between thoughts and actions.

If he's just going to say "I don't know you. Be gone." I'll just say "Neither did I know you. Goodbye."

It kind of depends on how it goes. Will it be like checking off a list? Will it be a one on one personal chat? Will it be like a courtroom with a prosecutor and me possibly acting as my own defense? Or something else entirely?

I can offer my two cents if you like based on what I experience and what the bible says.. I was just curious, but if you want a dialog here I can respond.

I'm sure. I could get an answer from each denomination of the three Abrahamic religions out there. The problem is that it's second hand knowledge at best. The bible, torah, and quran is second hand knowledge at best.

Feel free to give your thoughts on what I said, and we can have a back and forth. I believe you would say the reason I didn't find god in twenty years is because I didn't a/s/k properly. However the bible says ask and ye shall be answered. Seek and ye shall find. Knock, and the door will be answered. There are parts of the bible where it says that god would be happy to show you he's there if you want it, despite other parts of the bible saying he doesn't like being tested. He's fickle, I guess. I am aware that whatever someone believes, if they concentrate on it long and hard enough, they will genuinely believe it. Whether it's actually true or not.

I reject the idea that thoughts equal actions out of hand. I can give justifications for most of the things I've done. I will admit that some things I did have no excuse. That would be the case for everyone. I would probably eventually mention how I grew up in a country where the leader is meant to be held accountable to the people, so Yahweh's idea of one guy sitting above all others, without any checks and balances, really doesn't make sense. I'm from America. Not North Korea.

If he doesn't care to talk, and just says that I didn't know him so I should leave, I'd tell him that relationships need to go both ways. I did my half by mingling with the christian crowd. He had twenty years of opportunities. I know his idea of time might be different from ours, but I don't have a thousand years to wait around.

[vorlon13]

My defense strategy:

Why did you have to pick such a fucktard like Joseph Smith to be the prophet of your One True Faith ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

[downbeatplumb]

I suppose this is what's galling about being an atheist.
Knowing that when a theist dies they are never going to have an "oh shit we were wrong" moment because they'd be dead and there is no more.