Posts: 5706
Threads: 67
Joined: June 13, 2014
Reputation:
69
RE: Open Letter to Christians
October 29, 2014 at 4:45 pm
(October 29, 2014 at 4:37 pm)Lek Wrote: (October 29, 2014 at 4:25 pm)Jenny A Wrote: So far the one Christian response appears remarkably like atheist parodies, just less snarky. I guess we know the drill.
I see I spoke too soon. We have a non-evangelical in the house.
I guess you've heard all the answers already. Do you want me to make up some new ones now? You guys keep talking like you want us to change our minds and then tell you what our new opinions are.
Lek, your answers are exactly as expected and consequently exactly as parodied in prior responses. Adopting Wooters' opinions would be more tolerant and politically correct, but not more logical. Also much less fun to parody.
If there is a god, I want to believe that there is a god. If there is not a god, I want to believe that there is no god.
Posts: 3520
Threads: 31
Joined: December 14, 2013
Reputation:
20
RE: Open Letter to Christians
October 29, 2014 at 4:56 pm
(October 29, 2014 at 4:45 pm)Jenny A Wrote: Lek, your answers are exactly as expected and consequently exactly as parodied in prior responses. Adopting Wooters' opinions would be more tolerant and politically correct, but not more logical. Also much less fun to parody.
Well, it always makes me feel good to give somebody a good laugh. In fact, that's why I spend so much time in this forum.
Posts: 18510
Threads: 129
Joined: January 19, 2014
Reputation:
90
RE: Open Letter to Christians
October 29, 2014 at 6:30 pm
(This post was last modified: October 29, 2014 at 6:30 pm by Alex K.)
@ChadWooters
I wonder how you know those commandments in particular to be the required doctrine?
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition
Posts: 1401
Threads: 7
Joined: March 6, 2013
Reputation:
36
RE: Open Letter to Christians
October 29, 2014 at 6:31 pm
Oh my god, you're a polar bear.
That's adorable.
freedomfromfallacy » I'm weighing my tears to see if the happy ones weigh the same as the sad ones.
Posts: 5706
Threads: 67
Joined: June 13, 2014
Reputation:
69
RE: Open Letter to Christians
October 29, 2014 at 6:32 pm
(October 29, 2014 at 4:56 pm)Lek Wrote: Well, it always makes me feel good to give somebody a good laugh. In fact, that's why I spend so much time in this forum.
I doubt that, but I'm glad you don't mind being a source of amusement or in my case often bemusement.
If there is a god, I want to believe that there is a god. If there is not a god, I want to believe that there is no god.
Posts: 8712
Threads: 128
Joined: March 1, 2012
Reputation:
53
RE: Open Letter to Christians
October 29, 2014 at 7:00 pm
(October 29, 2014 at 6:30 pm)Alex K Wrote: @ChadWooters
I wonder how you know those commandments in particular to be the required doctrine? Jesus Christ spoke directly of these commandments (Mathew 22:37-40).
Posts: 448
Threads: 40
Joined: March 24, 2012
Reputation:
7
RE: Open Letter to Christians
October 29, 2014 at 7:12 pm
(October 29, 2014 at 10:30 am)polar bear Wrote: 1. How do you know if god is a) teaching you a lesson b)disciplining you or c) satan is attacking you? God says to test all things, and hold on to what is good. If you are suspicious of what the voice in your head is saying, test it with God's word.
(October 29, 2014 at 10:30 am)polar bear Wrote: 2. Why are there so many religions? (free will not accepted) It’s not that God is different for different people. God is eternally the same. It’s that we humans are different from one another, and we each see God in our own way. God gives every person and every culture what’s needed to know and love God, and to love and serve their fellow human beings.
(October 29, 2014 at 10:30 am)polar bear Wrote: 3. Why is Christianity the correct religion? Jesus said that He alone was the way to the Father (John 14:6)--that He alone revealed the Father (Matt. 11:27; Luke 10:22).
(October 29, 2014 at 10:30 am)polar bear Wrote: 4. Why do Christians fight each other about stuff like baptism, communion or free will v predestiny? Because different people have different opinions.
(October 29, 2014 at 10:30 am)polar bear Wrote: 5. Will jews go to hell? Jesus said, “I am the way, the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but by Me” (John 14:6). The “no one” He referred to includes Jews and Gentiles. There are many Messianic Jews who have accepted Yeshua as their Messiah.
(October 29, 2014 at 10:30 am)polar bear Wrote: 6. Why did jesus never write anything down for us? Christianity was an oral tradition back then. But John 8:3-9 proves that Jesus did write something, albeit on the ground.
(October 29, 2014 at 10:30 am)polar bear Wrote: 7. Why did paul write the majority of the nt when he never knew jesus? Jesus worked through him to write the NT.
(October 29, 2014 at 10:30 am)polar bear Wrote: 8. Why did the people who assembled the bible leave out so many known letters? Including redundant Gospels and letters, which talked about the same thing, would have been space wasting.
(October 29, 2014 at 10:30 am)polar bear Wrote: 9. if god created EVERYTHING, why did he create sin? or better put satan? God did not create Lucifer as evil but allowed the potential for sin. While God cannot commit sin, He doesn’t take it away from those who do. When Lucifer chose to rebel, he instantly became the author of sin. Evil is the result of a free-will choice by Lucifer. Satan and sin don’t foil God’s divine purposes.
(October 29, 2014 at 10:30 am)polar bear Wrote: 10. The creator of the universe created everything. For millions of years, there were no humans. All of a sudden humans just appear not evolve. Does a being capable of all this really desire a relationship with me? It wasn't because he needed us: "The God who made the world and everything in it … is not served by human hands, as if he needed anything" (Acts 17:24-25). And he didn't make us because he was lonely. Long before we were here, God already had "company" with his Son and the Holy Spirit, referred to in Genesis 1:26, "Let us make man in our own image." And he didn't make us because he needed his ego fed. It's not like God made us to satisfy some craving to be worshiped. God is totally secure in who he is—without us.
Despite not needing us, God chose to create us anyway, out of his great love: "I have loved you with an everlasting love" (Jeremiah 31:3). God is love (1 John 4:8), and because of that love and his wonderful creativity, he made us so we can enjoy all that he is and all that he's done.
(October 29, 2014 at 10:30 am)polar bear Wrote: 11. If he does want a relationship with me, why does he not want one with the millions of other people who are not mainly european and american? God gave us freewill to choose Him or another false god. God is not ignoring non-Europeans or non-Americans. It's the non-Europeans or non-Americans who choose to ignore Him.
Posts: 8781
Threads: 26
Joined: March 15, 2010
Reputation:
29
RE: Open Letter to Christians
October 29, 2014 at 7:14 pm
(This post was last modified: October 29, 2014 at 7:15 pm by Godscreated.)
@ polorbear,
You did not want true answers, just look where you gave kudos, your actions have spoken the truth about you.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
Posts: 25314
Threads: 239
Joined: August 26, 2010
Reputation:
155
RE: Open Letter to Christians
October 29, 2014 at 7:18 pm
Anyone ever notice how, in discussions about gods, the bits from the bible are inconsistent and vague, while the original bits that aren't from the book are just a plain old incoherent mess?
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
Posts: 4664
Threads: 100
Joined: November 22, 2013
Reputation:
39
Re: RE: Open Letter to Christians
October 29, 2014 at 7:20 pm
(October 29, 2014 at 7:14 pm)Godschild Wrote: @ polorbear,
You did not want true answers, just look where you gave kudos, your actions have spoken the truth about you.
GC I gave true answers.
|