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Heads up for theists
#11
RE: Heads up for theists
(November 4, 2014 at 11:11 am)dyresand Wrote:
(November 4, 2014 at 11:02 am)Godschild Wrote: Christians who practice the teachings of Christ know they are no better than anyone else, we're forgiven is the only difference. Christ taught that we are to be the least while here on earth, so that we can be first in the Kingdom. Your perception of Christian intent seems to be quite askew from reality.

GC

He is right you have the world view of having dominion over the lesser like animals and plants. Literally the bible tell you that you have dominion over plants and animals. Genesis 1:26 you cant deny that. FSM Grin

Oh if they need to they can. Through some sort of convoluted logic mixed with some good 'ol fashioned cherry picking, anything's possible when you base your life off of an ancient 'holy' book.
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#12
RE: Heads up for theists
(November 4, 2014 at 11:11 am)dyresand Wrote:
(November 4, 2014 at 11:02 am)Godschild Wrote: Christians who practice the teachings of Christ know they are no better than anyone else, we're forgiven is the only difference. Christ taught that we are to be the least while here on earth, so that we can be first in the Kingdom. Your perception of Christian intent seems to be quite askew from reality.

GC

He is right you have the world view of having dominion over the lesser like animals and plants. Literally the bible tell you that you have dominion over plants and animals. Genesis 1:26 you cant deny that. FSM Grin

Please tell me you're not that dense.

GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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#13
RE: Heads up for theists
GC if you disagree with that interpretation that does not change the actual words in the bible. The bible sets up humans as the most important species that has rights over everything else. It does not reflect the evolutionary knowledge that we are merely ONE species. It says nothing about the 5 mass extinctions that have been documented by scientists.

The bible is a reflection of the ignorance of of the people who wrote it. Humans, specifically followers of that god, are "chosen" and DO according to that book, have dominion over all other animals and the planet itself. There is nothing in that book that reflect our modern knowledge.
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#14
RE: Heads up for theists
(November 4, 2014 at 11:26 am)Brian37 Wrote: GC if you disagree with that interpretation that does not change the actual words in the bible. The bible sets up humans as the most important species that has rights over everything else. It does not reflect the evolutionary knowledge that we are merely ONE species. It says nothing about the 5 mass extinctions that have been documented by scientists.

The bible is a reflection of the ignorance of of the people who wrote it. Humans, specifically followers of that god, are "chosen" and DO according to that book, have dominion over all other animals and the planet itself. There is nothing in that book that reflect our modern knowledge.

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RE: Heads up for theists
(November 4, 2014 at 11:26 am)Brian37 Wrote: There is nothing in that book that reflect our modern knowledge.

Are you sure about that?
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RE: Heads up for theists
(November 4, 2014 at 12:21 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:
(November 4, 2014 at 11:26 am)Brian37 Wrote: There is nothing in that book that reflect our modern knowledge.

Are you sure about that?

Pretty much, yes.

But I'm open to any suggestions of modern knowledge being included. We can discard flat earth and pillars of heaven beforehand.
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#17
RE: Heads up for theists
(November 4, 2014 at 12:21 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:
(November 4, 2014 at 11:26 am)Brian37 Wrote: There is nothing in that book that reflect our modern knowledge.

Are you sure about that?

lets see flat earth no its round and pear like.
firmament no such thing exists.
six thousand year old earth radio carbon dating proves it to be wrong.
genesis wrong big bang theory proves it to be wrong and how could god work in the dark then use the light to see his creations.
adam and eve evolution proves it to be wrong.
prayer does it work no i doesn't science proves it to be wrong.
The bible is not divinely wrtting it was written to control the illiterate and yet still has power but loosing power in a modern age. Most of the writers of the bible just made up the events in a way to control people and their lively hoods.
God of the bible is to inconsistent to exist humans have more consistency than god there for god does not exist or if he does he is really evil.
The idea that there is going to be non believers stated in the bible hinting the start of the end of the world. There is always non believers in anything so that is way to much of a generalistic way of stating that in bible, because there was people during that time who weren't that dumb and also illiterate and literate to see what kind of bullshit was coming their way. There is nothing pertaining to the modern day or science in the bible only simple hopeful messages of peace and love unless that person is different then you kill them.
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#18
RE: Heads up for theists
(November 4, 2014 at 12:28 pm)abaris Wrote:
(November 4, 2014 at 12:21 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Are you sure about that?

Pretty much, yes.

But I'm open to any suggestions of modern knowledge being included. We can discard flat earth and pillars of heaven beforehand.

well for starters, the Bible has stated that time is relative long before Einstien.

Also according to science, an atom is 99.99% empty space. If you were to remove the empty space contained by atoms from humans, you could condense everyone on the planet down to the size of a sugar cube. What does this mean? It meas the world around you is not a psychical as you think. there is no such thing as a "solid" and technically, everything should be invisible.

“If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration.” - Nikola Tesla

The reason we can detect and interact with the world around us is because our bodies are tuned in to the same frequency, for instance, you should fall through a chair when you sit on it, but the energy fields created by you and the chair repel each other and you actually hover above the chair. Jesus walking through walls doesn't seem so crazy now, does it?

Quote:John 20
19 Then the same day at evening, being the first day of the week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you.

Also the Bible states were surrounded by an invisible world that we can't see, but I don't think I'll get into all that.

Quote:2 Kings 6
11 Therefore the heart of the king of Syria was sore troubled for this thing; and he called his servants, and said unto them, Will ye not shew me which of us is for the king of Israel?
12 And one of his servants said, None, my lord, O king: but Elisha, the prophet that is in Israel, telleth the king of Israel the words that thou speakest in thy bedchamber.
13 And he said, Go and spy where he is, that I may send and fetch him. And it was told him, saying, Behold, he is in Dothan.
14 Therefore sent he thither horses, and chariots, and a great host: and they came by night, and compassed the city about.
15 And when the servant of the man of God was risen early, and gone forth, behold, an host compassed the city both with horses and chariots. And his servant said unto him, Alas, my master! how shall we do?
16 And he answered, Fear not: for they that be with us are more than they that be with them.
17 And Elisha prayed, and said, Lord, I pray thee, open his eyes, that he may see. And the Lord opened the eyes of the young man; and he saw: and, behold, the mountain was full of horses and chariots of fire round about Elisha.
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#19
RE: Heads up for theists
(November 4, 2014 at 9:45 am)KUSA Wrote:
(November 4, 2014 at 8:57 am)Drich Wrote: Do you have any specific examples or is your statement inaccurate?

Every time you talk about your sky daddy being real.

Do you have proof of your assertion? Remember lack of proof is in of itself not proof.

(November 4, 2014 at 10:28 am)Thackerie Wrote:
(November 4, 2014 at 8:46 am)Drich Wrote: ROFLOL

What makes you think any of that is going on here? I am a firm believer that is life is to help us seperate ourselves wheat from weeds sheep from goats ect.. My purpose here is to supply you with accurate info so that can be done. Once you make your choice, then that is between you and God. Then my role shifts from one of helping you to one of keeping you from kidding up the choice for the next guy.

Oh, I already know that christians consider themselves better than the "weeds, goats, and etc." that don't believe the same thing they do. To me, christian arrogance is nearly as disgusting as the theology itself.

not better just seprate. God is seperating green M&M's from the blue ones. Are the green's better? no. But in order to be in the bag of green M&Ms one must be green.

You are confusing Christian arrogance with my own.
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#20
RE: Heads up for theists
I much prefer Gen 1:29
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