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RE: More Christian denominations than bible verses
November 4, 2014 at 7:24 pm
(November 4, 2014 at 5:26 pm)Kitanetos Wrote: 1. I cannot love a being where no reciprocation of love is evident due to the fact that there is no evidence for the being's existence.
Exactly, even if God really existed, love would not be correct approach, respect, maybe, but love (?), hell NO, that is reserved for my fellow humans and other earthlings...
That is a biggest fail of all monotheistic religions, love towards God BEFORE anyone and anything else, weird 
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RE: More Christian denominations than bible verses
November 4, 2014 at 9:27 pm
(November 4, 2014 at 3:40 pm)Dolorian Wrote: Fun Fact: There are more Christian denominations today than there are bible verses
There are around 31,103 verses in the bible whereas there are nearly 40,000 Christian denominations. Doubt there has been any book or subject in history that has sowed so much confusion.
And it just keeps splitting and splitting, it is something that I think is inherent in the religion itself. Even during the time of Paul they were already creating sects. I think one of the main reasons for this is that religious epistemology is simply inadequate to settle anything.
Source for the number of denominations: http://www.philvaz.com/apologetics/a106.htm
Number of verses in the bible: http://www.deafmissions.com/tally/bkchptrvrs.html
Hey, the Mormons are working on catching up. They are over 100 schisms so far, and many of the schisms have schismed.
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RE: More Christian denominations than bible verses
November 4, 2014 at 10:07 pm
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(November 4, 2014 at 5:26 pm)Kitanetos Wrote: (November 4, 2014 at 5:18 pm)Drich Wrote: To Love God with all of your being and to love your neighbor as yourself...
Everything else falls under the attonement in which Christianity is based.
1. I cannot love a being where no reciprocation of love is evident due to the fact that there is no evidence for the being's existence.
2. Loving myself would be considered sinful pride. If I cannot love myself, then I cannot love my neighbor as I would love myself.
1. What makes you think that is the case here? Oh, is it because God didnot love you the way you've demanded to be loved?
2. Greatest commands sport. Love God with everything, then your neighbor as your self..
You can't love yourself more than God or your neighbor more than yourself, meaning it is not a sin to love self.
(November 4, 2014 at 5:41 pm)miniboes Wrote: Speaking of love, if your god exists, Drich he is truly the most unloving being I can imagine.
....how are you defining' love?'
(November 4, 2014 at 7:07 pm)genkaus Wrote: (November 4, 2014 at 5:18 pm)Drich Wrote: So?
What if i told you that biblical Christianity is not a religion based on rules, and a strict guideline of following rules??
What if Christianity as God intended was based soley off of two rules. To Love God with all of your being and to love your neighbor as yourself...
Everything else falls under the attonement in which Christianity is based.
This would mean that it is far more important to worship God in a way true to your unique gifts and capasities rather than following one set of rules.
With the Jews God gave them one set of rules. For some, the rules were so hard they fail to follow them correctly.. For others the rules were so easy they became hypocritical in their worship.
So the Fix Jesus put in place, commands that we simply do our best. Now because we are all different, our best will look different.. How different? well according to your numbers 30 or 40K kinds of different.
Because it is a far greater sin for one to go through the motions of worship, than for one to seek out like minded brothers and worship in a way consistant with the limits of what God gave them.
If all this crap was correct, then all your prior insistence on Biblical Christianity is bullshit.
How so?
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RE: More Christian denominations than bible verses
November 5, 2014 at 7:07 am
(November 4, 2014 at 10:07 pm)Drich Wrote: (November 4, 2014 at 7:07 pm)genkaus Wrote: If all this crap was correct, then all your prior insistence on Biblical Christianity is bullshit.
How so?
With only two rules of "loving god" and "loving fellow man", everything else in the bible becomes pointless. Every other religion teaches the same thing. One of the tenets of modern theism is that different religions simply provide different interpretations of the same god and all prescribed forms of "worship and love" are equally valid.
What you need here is a third rule stating "god is to be interpreted by the bible" - but that would negate your point about worshiping him in ways true to unique gifts and capacities.
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RE: More Christian denominations than bible verses
November 5, 2014 at 7:18 am
(November 5, 2014 at 7:07 am)genkaus Wrote: (November 4, 2014 at 10:07 pm)Drich Wrote: How so?
With only two rules of "loving god" and "loving fellow man", everything else in the bible becomes pointless. Every other religion teaches the same thing. One of the tenets of modern theism is that different religions simply provide different interpretations of the same god and all prescribed forms of "worship and love" are equally valid.
What you need here is a third rule stating "god is to be interpreted by the bible" - but that would negate your point about worshiping him in ways true to unique gifts and capacities.
Now your shifting the goal posts. Or just speaking to what you think is the basic frame work of Christianity and assume what I have taught in the past applies.
So I will ask again. What have I said in the past that gets invalidated by what Christ taught about our greatest commands?
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RE: More Christian denominations than bible verses
November 5, 2014 at 7:22 am
(November 5, 2014 at 7:18 am)Drich Wrote: Now your shifting the goal posts. Or just speaking to what you think is the basic frame work of Christianity and assume what I have taught in the past applies.
So I will ask again. What have I said in the past that gets invalidated by what Christ taught about our greatest commands?
Your past statements about strict biblical interpretation of god and the method of worship.
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RE: More Christian denominations than bible verses
November 5, 2014 at 7:43 am
(November 5, 2014 at 7:22 am)genkaus Wrote: (November 5, 2014 at 7:18 am)Drich Wrote: Now your shifting the goal posts. Or just speaking to what you think is the basic frame work of Christianity and assume what I have taught in the past applies.
So I will ask again. What have I said in the past that gets invalidated by what Christ taught about our greatest commands?
Your past statements about strict biblical interpretation of god and the method of worship.
Like what specifically?
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RE: More Christian denominations than bible verses
November 5, 2014 at 9:30 am
(November 5, 2014 at 7:43 am)Drich Wrote: (November 5, 2014 at 7:22 am)genkaus Wrote: Your past statements about strict biblical interpretation of god and the method of worship.
Like what specifically?
You need specific examples of where you call for strict biblical interpretation of god? That's practically all you do.
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RE: More Christian denominations than bible verses
November 5, 2014 at 10:04 am
(November 5, 2014 at 9:30 am)genkaus Wrote: (November 5, 2014 at 7:43 am)Drich Wrote: Like what specifically?
You need specific examples of where you call for strict biblical interpretation of god? That's practically all you do.
Then it should be very easy for you to provide one example.
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RE: More Christian denominations than bible verses
November 5, 2014 at 10:27 am
(November 5, 2014 at 10:04 am)Drich Wrote: (November 5, 2014 at 9:30 am)genkaus Wrote: You need specific examples of where you call for strict biblical interpretation of god? That's practically all you do.
Then it should be very easy for you to provide one example.
That would require me mucking through your previous posts - something I'd rather not do unless I have to.
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