Atheist more moral according to Brits.

[Brian37]

Atheists more moral according to Brits https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFvon0Fr1L4#t=143

[pocaracas]

The guy is quoting this article:
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/11/...94442.html

[Brian37]

Thanks

[Jenny A]

Yeah for the Brits. I don't think that's the answers you'd get in the U.S. though.

[Mister Agenda]

It's not a popularity contest, and most Brits not being religious means that sort of result is about what you'd expect. The nonreligious ones are going to think religion is, at best, unnecessary for morality. I'd like to see the UK's prison statistics by religion to see if there's any difference in proportional representation. I know the representation of atheists in prisons in the USA is remarkably low, but I expect that's partly an artifact of US culture being such that atheists have to be atypical to buck the pressure to conform. Where it's the norm, their prison representation should be higher...but is it as high as prison representation from religions?

[Brian37]

I will stipulate though, my reason for posting this isn't to claim that atheists morality is a patent owned by atheists. Only to point out that it is a myth that atheists cannot be moral. If the U.S. is going to value the U.K as their friend, then our population needs to stop fearing atheists as well.

I still will vote for a "Nuns on the bus" believer before I will vote for an Ayn Rand atheist, and believe me there are selfish atheists on par with right wing corporate loving Christians.

[Mequa]

I think for many Brits, hypocrisy among many of the devout has eroded religion's claim to virtue.

I am glad Britain is a largely secular country in the 21st century, with only the vestiges of a state church and monarchy, both very weak nowadays.

The progressive agenda has led to the legalisation of gay marriage in Britain, which shows the shifting moral climate of a post-Christian country.

[ManMachine]

Atheists more moral according to Brits https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFvon0Fr1L4#t=143

Yep, that makes sense to me.

MM

[The Grand Nudger]

I know the representation of atheists in prisons in the USA is remarkably low, but I expect that's partly an artifact of US culture being such that atheists have to be atypical to buck the pressure to conform. Where it's the norm, their prison representation should be higher...but is it as high as prison representation from religions?

One tiny gripe I've always had about this is that legality and morality are not interchangeable. People find themselves in prison because they did something illegal, not because they did something immoral. For the same reason, the lower representation of atheists in prisons is partly due to there being fewer atheists to arrest ...but mostly due to there being fewer atheists who break the law (in the US obvs). It's not really a morality thing. Of course we have to mention that a quarter of our prisoners are being held as such for non-violent drug related crimes (and there's the danger of allowing our sense of morality and legality to intersect so firmly...imo). A little more than a tenth are there for "public order" - which..I shit you not...contains "moral and decency offenses" -facepalm-. A little more than a third....property related (thieves have mouths to feed, same as the rest of us). There are even numbers on a segment of the prison population called "unspecific"...mull that shit over....incarcerated for "unspecific" reasons...lol. Only 1% or so, but it's the most amusing 1%. Less than half are incarcerated for something we might call unambiguously "immoral". Violent crime. Even in that portion....I'm certain that there is a number that we might be hard pressed to demonstrate with any certainty that it was a moral failing that led to their incarceration.

The strongest "moral conclusion" that I can reach, looking at those numbers..says nothing about the prisoners or any disparity between faith and faithlessness...................just my two cents.