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So you when to hell now what.
RE: So you when to hell now what.
(December 8, 2014 at 5:29 pm)Godschild Wrote:
(December 7, 2014 at 8:03 pm)snowtracks Wrote: she was unconscious, thought to be dead.

You know this how?
Christ is the only one who can raise people from the dead.
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(December 8, 2014 at 5:26 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: I have no problems taking someones word for something, when they haven't given me any reason to doubt them.

That right there is the problem. Don't trust so easily, because there is always a motive. Sometimes it is innocent and sometimes it isn't.
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Even when it's innocent that doesn't mean what a person says is true. Sometimes people are honest with you and tell you things they truly believe, but that doesn't make them right.
(August 21, 2017 at 11:31 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: "I'm not a troll"
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RE: So you when to hell now what.
So Christ raised himself from the dead? While he was dead? That's impressive.

I looked stuff up and saw that there is no legal definition of what it means to be dead, in England at least. The problem is, what is being dead? Is it:

(a) Beyond the point at which the person can ever come back to life
(b) An arbitrary set of guidelines

Clearly (a) is not being used, because people are evaluated as dead temporarily then brought round by CLEAR! And people come back to life sometimes when pronounced dead.

Whichever definition you use, human judgement is being employed. And it can be wrong. Say it is wrong once in every million times someone is pronounced dead, I think that's a reasonable estimate? Then you'd fully expect some people to "come back to life". It would be strange if they didn't, frankly. That would make the doctors infallible.

NDE = bollocks, brain under extreme stress creating hallucinations which inevitably involve what it is familiar such as jesus and angels and crap and somehow no muslim stuff
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RE: So you when to hell now what.
(December 11, 2014 at 1:28 am)snowtracks Wrote:
(December 8, 2014 at 5:29 pm)Godschild Wrote: You know this how?
Christ is the only one who can raise people from the dead.

In what universe does this address the question?
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: So you when to hell now what.
(December 11, 2014 at 1:28 am)snowtracks Wrote:
(December 8, 2014 at 5:29 pm)Godschild Wrote: You know this how?
Christ is the only one who can raise people from the dead.

we can do that shock paddles and other equipment.

(December 11, 2014 at 5:15 am)robvalue Wrote: So Christ raised himself from the dead? While he was dead? That's impressive.

I looked stuff up and saw that there is no legal definition of what it means to be dead, in England at least. The problem is, what is being dead? Is it:

(a) Beyond the point at which the person can ever come back to life
(b) An arbitrary set of guidelines

Clearly (a) is not being used, because people are evaluated as dead temporarily then brought round by CLEAR! And people come back to life sometimes when pronounced dead.

Whichever definition you use, human judgement is being employed. And it can be wrong. Say it is wrong once in every million times someone is pronounced dead, I think that's a reasonable estimate? Then you'd fully expect some people to "come back to life". It would be strange if they didn't, frankly. That would make the doctors infallible.

NDE = bollocks, brain under extreme stress creating hallucinations which inevitably involve what it is familiar such as jesus and angels and crap and somehow no muslim stuff

also not to mention jesus sent his own self to hell for not believing in himself and in those 3 days jesus was dead there was no god. so when he was like father forgive them they do not know what they do, that idiot was talking to himself. <- thats if any of this is real.
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(December 11, 2014 at 9:08 am)Stimbo Wrote:
(December 11, 2014 at 1:28 am)snowtracks Wrote: Christ is the only one who can raise people from the dead.
In what universe does this address the question?
At least you can't accuse him of inconsistency.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."

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That's because he's consistent in his inconsistency.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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(December 11, 2014 at 5:15 am)robvalue Wrote: NDE = bollocks, brain under extreme stress creating hallucinations which inevitably involve what it is familiar such as jesus and angels and crap and somehow no muslim stuff

Aren't you guys all about evidence and proof? If NDE's are nothing more than "hallucinations" then I'm pretty sure that there is scientific test data to prove this.

So where is it?

Or are you accepting someones wild speculation by faith?
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(December 11, 2014 at 9:27 am)dyresand Wrote: also not to mention jesus sent his own self to hell for not believing in himself and in those 3 days jesus was dead there was no god. so when he was like father forgive them they do not know what they do, that idiot was talking to himself. <- thats if any of this is real.

What? What religion teaches this?
(August 21, 2017 at 11:31 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: "I'm not a troll"
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