MERGED: The Case for the Resurrection of Jesus Christ (Part 1) & (Part 2)
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MERGED: The Case for the Resurrection of Jesus Christ (Part 1) & (Part 2)
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 (December 12, 2014 at 5:52 pm)His_Majesty Wrote:(December 12, 2014 at 1:38 am)Jenny A Wrote: Because they weren't written by disciples? And they were written much to late to make any such claim. And it's that much too late part that makes them essentially worthless. Oh boy. Can't wait to not read that too.  (December 13, 2014 at 4:19 pm)whateverist Wrote:(December 12, 2014 at 5:52 pm)His_Majesty Wrote: I will gladly answer this in part 3. Wouldn't part 3 be the end of the world so if there is a part 3 to this amazingly stupid story HM got left behind?
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Code: <iframe width="100%" height="450" scrolling="no" frameborder="no" src="https://w.soundcloud.com/player/?url=https%3A//api.soundcloud.com/tracks/255506953&auto_play=false&hide_related=false&show_comments=true&show_user=true&show_reposts=false&visual=true"></iframe> (December 12, 2014 at 8:21 pm)His_Majesty Wrote:(December 12, 2014 at 8:14 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: Because, supposedly, he has the most important message for all of humanity. A message that everyone must get correct, or end up being punished for eternity. Oh... So all you have is a baseless, illogical ad hoc explanations. Just what I thought. Which actually leads to another point. Why would a god that wants to communicate said critical message, leave it up to such poor apologists such as yourself (not to mention William Craig, Josh McDowell, Gary Habermas, et al) to do the job? Wouldn't an omniscient god know that I will be unconvinced by such flawed and fallacious arguments, such as you offer? You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence. 
Wait... He used the worst method imaginable, because he knew people are so stupid it would work anyway?
That's pretty twisted, even for an ad-hoc. Also doesn't say much of his opinion of his followers. Feel free to send me a private message.
Please visit my website here! It's got lots of information about atheism/theism and support for new atheists. Index of useful threads and discussions Index of my best videos Quickstart guide to the forum (December 13, 2014 at 5:45 pm)robvalue Wrote: Wait... He used the worst method imaginable, because he knew people are so stupid it would work anyway? It does seem like the Biblical 'Yahweh' character wants Heaven to be filled with the gullible and the credulous, like His_Majesty. Yahweh praises faith (the least effective method of discerning fact from fiction), not evidence and reasoned argument. John 20:29 "Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.” And this is supposed to be a good thing. You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence. (December 13, 2014 at 9:59 pm)Simon Moon Wrote:(December 13, 2014 at 5:45 pm)robvalue Wrote: Wait... He used the worst method imaginable, because he knew people are so stupid it would work anyway? Also by gods own biblical standards aren't we all going to hell because everyone had to wear mixed fabrics at one point and ate seafood.
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(December 14, 2014 at 12:01 am)Spooky Wrote:(December 13, 2014 at 10:22 pm)dyresand Wrote: Also by gods own biblical standards aren't we all going to hell because everyone had to wear mixed fabrics at one point and ate seafood.  what about both at the same time bacon and sex  
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Code: <iframe width="100%" height="450" scrolling="no" frameborder="no" src="https://w.soundcloud.com/player/?url=https%3A//api.soundcloud.com/tracks/255506953&auto_play=false&hide_related=false&show_comments=true&show_user=true&show_reposts=false&visual=true"></iframe> Quote:Also by gods own biblical standards aren't we all going to hell because everyone had to wear mixed fabrics at one point and ate seafood. Seafood is far superior to any fucking god.  (December 14, 2014 at 12:21 am)dyresand Wrote: Bacon is sex. Speaking of which, I miss Ivy.
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MERGED: The Case for the Resurrection of Jesus Christ (Part 1) & (Part 2)
